Thread 83000438

I'm 5'6" and it honestly eats at me more than I want to admit. I've tried the whole "just don't care" mindset, I lift, dress well, focus on self-improvement, but no matter what, every time I see some "short men don't count" joke or girls saying they'd never date anyone under 6 feet, it hits me right in the gut. I know rationally it's stupid to let something I can't change define me, but it's hard not to feel lesser when the world won't shut up about height. How do you actually make peace with something like this and stop caring for real?

>>83000438 (OP)
Stop spending so much time online. You never hear this "haha short men" shit anywhere in real life. Most rich famous celebrity men are manlets. The only people I have ever seen bring up height in real life are very short people that are very insecure about it so they make it a topic and pester tall people over it. 5'6" is not even that small the average height for men worldwide is 5'7" and 5'3" for women. I'm only 5'11" and everywhere I go the majority of people are significantly shorter than me and I've always been treated as a "tall guy". Idk why Zoomers are so god damn neurotic about these memes issues but literally stop absorbing the nonsense. This is why entire generations shouldn't be raised online with smartphones it's cancer for your mind and infects it with bullshit. You're fine be glad you don't have real health problems.

>>83000438 (OP)
What's something about that makes you go "I'm better than them" ?
Like, could be an exaggerated feature like your cock size or a larger-than-life personality
Something that makes you stand out

>>83000530
>You never hear this "haha short men" shit anywhere in real life.

Not OP, but you absolutely do. It also depends on where you hang out. I'm not gonna bother writing out my experiences, but women shit on us literally daily

t. 5'5 subhuman "male"

>>83000438 (OP)
The ones who care that much about height are going to be more vocal about it, but also women irl date all sorts of heights as long as it's not too close to their own, so the 6ft is really just an online thing. However at 5'6 you will have a difficult time since that probably excludes most women your height and taller, but the average for women is still lower than 5'6 so it's not implausible

>>83000554
I earn an average salary of about $65K, have a 5 inch dick, and my hobby is mostly editing Beach Boys music. I wish I had something remarkable that made me stand out, but I don't. I do have abs, though not that it matters much when you're this short.

>>83000438 (OP)
Either accept it or stay bitter I guess, those are our only 2 options shortbro. The world won't change for us, we'll always be seen as less-than

>>83000652
>Either accept it
That's my problem. I went through a phase where I tried to accept that I'm short, and for a while, I thought I was doing okay with it. But lately, the casual jokes from my coworkers and seeing shorter women already in relationships with taller guys have started to get to me again. People say that as you grow older, you stop caring about things like this, but for me, it feels like the opposite. The older I get, the more insecure I've become. Even the smallest joke about my height can sting deeply now. I don't even know why so much of my self-worth seems tied to something I can't control. I wish I could reach a point where the teasing and comments just rolled off me, where I could genuinely not care. But that's not where I'm at right now. I'm still trying to figure out how to be okay with myself as I am.

>>83000708
You need a change of environment I think... Consider Southeast Asia

t. 5'7 in SEA, avg. height is 5'5 where I'm from

>>83000608
>I don't
don't say that, I know you've got something in you

>>83000530
>i don't have this issue therefore it's all your fault
retard
>manlet
and here it is

>>83000708
>Even the smallest joke about my height can sting deeply now.
I used to not gaf about them because I was oblivious to how much does male height matter to people. But now I know that every such microaggression basically is a tool to make my life a living hell. And I will never accept a society where a 16 year old has to feel like a subhuman and considering suicide because people can't stop themselves from commenting and joking about that.

And the worst of them all, "napoleon syndrome" so you will know that if you ever object, then they will take that as a proof that you deserve such treatment even if they don't that deeply believe short men are inferior, gaslighting to shut you up.

>>83000530
Uh while they won't say it to your face I promise you that people irl treat you differently. I'm 5'4 and I've had gfs but women that will acknowledge you as a sexual being when you're this short are relatively rare.

>You're fine be glad you don't have real health problems.
Some of us do have serious health issues as well. Did you think you only get one major debuff in life?

>>83000708
I wish I could help you anon. I wish I could give you some cope that will change your perspective, but I'm in the exact same situation so I honestly don't know what I could say that will offer you some sort of solace. It doesn't get better as you get older, I can tell you that. Seeing my taller friends move on in life (getting married, moving in with girlfriends, etc) has blackpilled me on a level I never thought possible.

pic related is how I feel

>>83000849
They didn't because they are high on just world fallacy.

And thinking that heightism only causes issues in dating is laughable.

>>83000438 (OP)
ive been one of those foids who says height doesn't matter so much, because personally i've liked guys who are 5'7", 5'8". but if i was a man who was 5'5" or 5'6" i do admit i'd kms (or become a gay bottom)

>>83000867
>i've liked guys who are 5'7", 5'8"
what did you like them for?

>>83000867
>but if i was a man who was 5'5" or 5'6" i do admit i'd kms
I have sleeping pills, and I've been thinking about overdosing on them. My dad's dead, I have no friends, and I don't have a relationship with my mom. The only reason I'm alive is taking care of my cat. After he dies, then maybe I'd find the courage to do it, as my life is nothing.

>>83000951
Don't do it anon, I know it hurts but don't an hero

>>83000438 (OP)
I'll tell you what worked for me. Burnout.
I only have so much energy to spend.
It's not a height thing for me though.

>>83000438 (OP)
I see and know hispanic guys that are 5ft nothing with girlfriends, wives, and families every day they work shit hard jobs like construction doing roofing and carpentry, gardening etc and they never complain about their height or mention it. This is a first world problem for mentally ill people that expect to have everything in their favor like they're some main character in a movie. How do all the hundreds of millions of short chinese men get through their lives every day? You faggots are just weak minded from social media culture and can't handle any disadvantages. Guaranteed if I waved a magic wand and made you 6'4" you'd just find the next thing to bitch about and say other people make your life too hard for it. Grow up and get over it. Faggot.

>>83000708
>short women with tall guys
A lot of men with amazon fetishes would envy you.
I'm 6'2, I've seen one woman taller than me ever, and she was carrying around an infant so no go.

>>83000787
>napoleon syndrome
Napoleon was average height for his area/time. He's only short by our standards.

>>83000884
being cool, and being old-fashioned in a cool way. the one who is i believe around 5'8" (he is taller than me at 5'5" but not "tall") is my current crush. the other one i met a long time ago and got a mini crush, but i haven't seen him in a loong time.

>>83000994
This gotta be a psyop, exact same talking points that are freely available on reddit. You really need to have higher IQ to troll.

>>83001035
Doesn't change the fact that normies repeat this as a mantra.

>>83000438 (OP)
the thing is i just straight up dont care anymore im like 5'7 and as for the online jokes and stuff yeah that affects me but also not really considering the amount of stuff online for my race (indian) is way more than the amount of stuff for my height

also ik for a fact that the reason i aint got a girl is cause i just dont know how to talk to women like im definitely above average in looks but i just never had a single female friend growing up and none of my best friends in school had girlfriends either so i just never really had any interaction with women but im also only 19 so idr care too much about this stuff and the thing is irl in college ive seen men of all heights with pretty women like one of my friends is 5'5 and the other is 6'1 and both of them got girlfriends so you just gotta stop being a lil bitch ig

>>83000994
>I see and know hispanic guys that are 5ft nothing with girlfriends, wives
that's a captive community or so to speak. that's like comparing us to pajeets who have arranged marriages, or mormons or other closed communities
>How do all the hundreds of millions of short chinese men get through their lives every day?
They are miserable and kill themselves so much that factory owners place anti suicide nets on their buildings. China has a supercharged incel issue since they slaughtered female babies for so long, probably not an example that works in your favor.

it's over for you buddy.

>>83000438 (OP)
at least you're not bald at the same time

It's insane that despite being 5'7, by far my biggest insecurity is that I'm a mouth breather. I can't even rope, because it'll slide right off.
If I was at least short, and not ugly I could at least enjoy some of the fruits of a social life. But instead I'm ignored or mocked anywhere I go.

>>83000438 (OP)
I'm 5'5 and bald. Decades of inceldom wore me down to not giving a shit.
Now it has become obvious that foids - already Chad-only - hate manlets, and therefore will never fuck us.
I am simply glad to NEET, live in relative seclusion, and not have to deal with people as much.
I'd love the nukes to fall, as globalism is sending everyone to hell anyway.

>>83000438 (OP)
Not short but I went bald at a young age so I can relate to being dissatisfied with your appearance for things you can't control. The best way to cope is to focus on the positives about you. If you can't think of any, then improve yourself to the point that everything you CAN control (your diet, physique, financials, grooming) is a positive, not a negative. Instead of looking at myself and thinking "I'm an ugly, bald loser" I had to train myself to notice other things first. Now I look at myself and think "I'm a jacked guy with a great smile who makes good money, and also I'm bald." Retrain yourself to look at the positives first, and the negative will become an afterthought.

>>83000438 (OP)
i'm 5'6 as well, always assumed i was average height because i lived quite an isolated life and when i finally did decide to measure myself i found myself feeling incredibly shitty whenever i would see mentions of height online as i now had a reference point to go off of
the more time i spent online browsing r9k and seeing all of the heightpill content out there the more insecure and demotivated i felt
but when i actually started engaging with the real world, going to the gym, going on hikes with strangers, making an effort to leave the house everyday i found myself feeling less depressed and more confident as i continued to have positive interactions with people
i ended up in multiple relationships, dating one woman who was shorter than me and another who was the same height
the majority of what i experienced in the real world didn't align with the blackpill shit i had been inadvertently consuming all my life through browsing r9k
i didn't make any effort to pursue relationships, i just engaged with the people that engaged with me and found myself naturally making friends and building connections
basically, focus on your real life in the real world and as long as you're not an insufferable cunt you'll probably end up much happier
distract yourself with reality, don't run from it and don't allow others to define it for you

>>83000438 (OP)

I am 5'6" also

Idk for sex. How do you feel about a life that is 100% out of your control? Would you give a shit about women then?

>>83000438 (OP)
I am 5'6 and on the tail end of a depressive episode thats lasted around a year
i have witnessed a lot of interesting shit at my church which I have gone to for ~2 years

1. there is this 5'4 bald guy at my church and hes not a bad person but over my time I have witnessed people actively avoid him. its sad but he ended up getting married to some 4'10 southeast asian chick.
2. there is this 5'6/5'7 asian college dude who is confident as shit and he is friends with the pastors son who is 6ft. he gets treated really well but he just has mad good social skills and is extroverted. helps that he has siblings and they are all younger than him. and being asian I feel like makes being short less weird and more understood.
3. there is this 5'9 chadlite. there was a girl that literally became obsessed with him for a year and even moved into the same apartment building as him under the guise that shes best friends with his sister (who lives with him). the guy just straight up kept telling her he prefers being single rn. kinda funny how that just increased her attraction. he has mad aura and charisma and top 10% face easily.
4. the guys sister above is like early 20s and has explicitly stated on social media that she wants a "tall christian man" to marry. she has had many failed relationships via dating apps and then this new young guy joined our church whos probably like 5'10 and she straight up just threw herself at him. followed him to his car and spoke with him in the freezing cold. so yeah... both this and the situation above are examples of what it looks like when a girl has genuine desire for a guy.

meanwhile im mid 20s and make a shitload of money every year but i dont feel confident
well I used to lol before I got my first gf
I am not gonna blame her but
while we were in a relationship I just noticed the night and day difference on how people treat her to how they treat me, especially at my church
I feel like that partially caused my depression

>>83005785
also i want to add that i genuinely believe that if i had better social skills everything would be better
cause that's at least half of it, my social skills are hot garbage

yes people will treat you on average worse for being short
but if you are unconfident as a short guy you are basically feeding the negative bias people have and making it worse
but you can fix that just by having aura, charisma, and confidence unironically
I have witnessed that myself by seeing these other guys
sucks that I just don't have that ability *yet*

so i would say its salvageable for me if i can figure out how to not be autistic
it helps that I do have a higher tier face, idk about chadlite but its definitely significantly above average

>>83000994
If I was 6'4 I would literally have no problems

>>83000438 (OP)
get a mommy kink like me.
i wish i was a manlet and have a big ol' tiddie havin, wide birthing hips havin, big ol' booty havin, pretty bein, 7ft tall mommy gf

why even live

>>83000438 (OP)
>I know rationally it's stupid to let something I can't change define me
What exactly is so rational about that? Something you can't change means that's what you are.

My height really gets to me too. I can't help but size people up anytime I'm in a crowd. I just think my proportions look weird.

>>83004121
yes i agree brah

>>83000530
I met a priest infront of a big church in my city a couple years ago and he told me one of the reason he became a priest was that he felt insecure about his height when he was young.
And he was like 60-80 when I met him back then.....

>>83000530
Nah, fuck off with your just-world fallacy and your "It didn't happen to me so it doesn't real" bullshit. I've had short friends that absolutely got shit on for being short. I'm guilty of making short jokes myself, but only with my most confident short king friends, never with strangers or unconfident friends. We absolutely live in a society that glorifies tallness, and I've literally heard the words "You're too short for me" when out with shorter friends.

>>83000554
>Something that makes you stand out
i know english, that's about it :P

>>83000988
>Burnout
the 3rd one is my favorite

>>83000994
i'll tell ya what, i know for a fact people wouldn't mess with me as much if i was tall instead of being 5'7.

>>83000530
> You never hear this "haha short men" shit anywhere in real life.
Trust me, but this is wildly untrue. I'm living on a college campus and hear girls talking about guys and one of the things they love to talk or laugh about is a guy's height.

I thought girls would be more filtered about it, like how guys don't discuss a girls weight but no. Girls openly talk about it.

> your local 5'3 manlet

>>83008410
you ever notice how baldness and short height are the two things considered societally acceptable?
it's because
1. those are two things that can never be negatively associated with women (fat shaming was of course abolished to protect other women)
2. this is actually a matriarchy, and women decide what is socially acceptable

building on why fat shaming is abolished
it actually benefits women in so many ways
one crucial thing is it allows fat women to remain delusional and stay fat so beckies and stacies can have less competition for the men they want

literally everything is designed for women to get exactly what they want

>>83008441
considered societally acceptable to make fun of*