Thread 83001676

>be me
>friends with this girl since like 2018
>in all that time never once asked for nudes, going on a date, not even boob pics
>i feel like we have a really good report by now
>ask her if she'd be willing to date me
>she shyly answers "honestly anon idk i don't want to mess up our friendship"
>try and tell her that friendship relationships are way more likely to last because we already know each other
>"but anon i like being friends with you what if we break up and then we're just never friends anymore"
>obviously we just won't break up
>"anon i'm sorry but i think i'd just rather be friends with you"
>start to loose my cool
>try and explain to her that i've been a good friend, this whole time, respectful and polite and those are things that make a person a good boyfriend
>"anon i know but i just like being friends with you cmon"
>conversation unfortunately spirals out of control and ends with pic related
>now she told all her friends and they told my friends
>friends arent talking to me either
fuck my fucking life oh my god. she literally could have just been nice about it but instead she ruined my fucking social life right after we started college. fuck you brianna if your reading this

>>83001676 (OP)
honestly I get her. Make your interests clear when you meet them and all that. You kinda fucked up

>>83001676 (OP)
"date me or we're not talking anymore" retard

>>83001676 (OP)
you sperged out hard

Another day, another baitpost that will go up on leddit

this is fake. or you are a crazy person.

you made all the wrong responses you are spiritually female

>>83001676 (OP)
>ask to date someone
>"no"
>refuse to take no for an answer
Mentally deficient.

>>83001676 (OP)
Ahh yes the friend zone. When your too ugly to be a boyfriend but have a personality she likes. I've been told by multiple women that I'm a green flag, and that I'm one of the only guy friends they made that didn't start being creepy. Yet none of them want to date me (wonder why).

Honestly anon I would've just asked of she had a friend who was single and prayed she wasn't ugly as shit or obese.

>>83001676 (OP)
>i feel like we have a really good report by now
rapport?

should have escalated further
>date me or i'll kill myself

>>83001793
>Honestly anon I would've just asked of she had a friend who was single
I've never in my life even heard of a woman actually hooking one of her male friends with a girl, I've seen guys do it though, weird.

>>83001676 (OP)
Obviously she is in the wrong, don't listen to these fucking retards. If she can't even offer to be fuckbuddies she's not worth your time.

>>83001676 (OP)
This is why straight males and straight females can never be friends unless the male restrains himself
It's why I was best friends with a hot chick, a co-worker, for years
We ate lunch together everyday
When we were bored at work, we hung out by each other
We fooled around a little sometimes when no one was around (no sex unfortunately)
Everyone in our small office knew what was going on between us
I've since moved away
She's married and has kids now
She knew how I felt about her, but I never gave her an ultimatum "date me or we are not friends"

Also, what is this normie shit on /r9k/?

>>83001822
A girl (technically 3 but 2 of them are pooners) tried to hook me up with this girl and she was not attractive at all though unfortunately.

Girls love that type of thing because it causes drama and women live off drama. Even as a last ditch attempt at finding a relationship its better than nothing.

>>83001848
>We fooled around a little sometimes when no one was around
>Also, what is this normie shit on /r9k/?

>>83001747
>>83001745
Ya this is either bait or you're way too much of a sperg for anyone to date. If a female doesn't show obvious signs of wanting intimacy with you in the beginning you're just a beta orbiter friend. This whole "make friends first then ask them to date way later" thing is nonsense. Real life is not a anime fag. Women don't friendzone guys they will be in a relationship with. Male friends are just boyfriend benefits without having to put out to women.

>>83001850
I think it's just because most women are risk adverse and don't want to rattle the social order, and men like the power dynamic of making 2 people fuck. One time I remember I was talking to a fat chick in my circle about a girl that I knew became recently single and she just straight up ignored my inquiry. Maybe women will help out other women because they know men are easy but that's it.

>>83001676 (OP)
>in all that time never once asked for nudes, going on a date, not even boob pics
In all that time she never even considered sending you nudes or going on a date. What made you think that randomly asking for it was going to make her want to do it? She was thinking, "I finally have a friend who doesn't want to see my tits," only to be proven wrong

>>83001676 (OP)
why couldnt you just say "listen i really like you, i like you more as a friend are you willing to go on a few dates with me and see how it goes? I value our friendship and dont want to lose you so if you dont feel the same way its fine with me" but instead you sperged out

>>83001676 (OP)
Kek sperg get btfo

>>83001904
Life is transactional, his time spent restraining himself around her should be rewarded, you're just a normalghoul

>>83001886
>recently single
That's probably why anon. Women only enter new relationships after recently being single for 2 reasons 1. They really, really like this person and / or left the other person to be with this person. 2. They need a rebound to use for emotional support or sex. Having their friend come up to them trying to introduce them to a new guy is probably really annoying to them.

Also fat girls a hate it when men try to get with their friends.

>>83001676 (OP)
wew lad
I finally side with the foid this time
men who demand pussy just for being a friend are fucking scum
you aren't entitled to shit, you had 7 years to make her attracted to you and you failed

>>83001676 (OP)
What's the use case for throwing a tantrum when someone refuses to do something you asked them to?

>>83001863
I'm as much of an autistic retard as anyone on here
I just happen to be better looking

>>83001938
>Life is transactional
For this woman it wasn't a transaction

>>83001676 (OP)
I'd say this is a larp but I've seen first hand men being this pathetic and worse

>>83001676 (OP)
You should've been born very attractive or you should've waited 10 years for her to reached to you looking for a offy doffy beta buck beta cuck provider
You only have yourself to blame

>she nukes OP social network
Women who do this should be murdered.

>>83001984
All women should be beaten to near-death at least once, the murdering should come if they don't learn to be better after that

>>83001676 (OP)
>"but anon i like being friends with you what if we break up and then we're just never friends anymore"
>obviously we just won't break up
What a retarded thing to believe. Man up FAGGOT

>>83001984
he's crashing out on her for not giving up her pussy
I think this is warranted in this scenario. He feels like a predator.

>>83001747
This is way too fucking boring and lame even for le rebbiters

>>83001676 (OP)
>She could have just been nice about it
She tried to be nice you wouldn't stop sperging out and trying to DEBATE ME BRO your way into having a GF who doesn't like you lmao. Fucking cringe. You are a turbo faggot

>>83001699
Betas lack courage and think they can trick us into dating them if they hang around us enough
I mean you might get a rebound fuck but dating from friendship is rare I generally like to date a guy when I first am interested. If he's my "friend" it's because I was not.

>>83001956
7 years lololol dude wasted almost a decade collecting GBPs thinking he would get pussy

>>83002068
Stop being a woman you retard, chads are the only predators

>>83002117
You are not a chad and will never be a chad, so this post is pointless.

>>83001917
Nah I like OP's cringe strategy of DEBATE ME BRO it doesn't matter if your pussy is dried out by seeing me you have to like me because I masturbated to you for almost a decade I have earned it

>>83001676 (OP)
you idiot... everyone's already saying how much of an idiot you are but fuck, man
throwing your friendship away like this... ugh.

thanks for showing me this, i'll make sure not to make that mistake
godspeed, anon.

>>83002133
Of course I'm not, I'm not a predator therefore I'm not a chad
What I am saying is that you're a disgusting piece of shit that labels good but unloved men as predators for daring to reach out

>>83001676 (OP)
Now that you threw a hissy fit over her, I am sure she regrets not dating you. You really showed her you are a good catch and a man who will add value to her life.

Silly faggot, you just proved her right. If she gave you a chance out of guilt then dropped you after a few weeks, your crash out would have been VIOLENT. Be a fucking man, cupcake. Hit the gym and stop crying on 4chan

>>83002193
there is nothing good about OP, he a despicable piece of ratshit and frankly, so are you

both of you guys deserve 0 pussy, and I say this as a 30+ khv who struggles to like women
you fags are way worse than even me, serial killer material in the making basically

>>83001676 (OP)
lmao beta normies are so delusional. imagine simping for 7 years just to get btfod, meanwhile abusehad and bbc tyrone fucks her 1 hour after meeting her

>>83001676 (OP)
>in all that time never once asked for nudes, going on a date, not even boob pics

Lmaoooooooo
>I didn't even ask for tit pics over 7 years, you have to date me!!

>>83002206
>there is nothing good about OP
Stopped reading there
Assuming it's real, OP deserves all the good in the world for the bullshit he's had to endure

>>83002215
For real lmao faggot really spent 7 years beta orbiting Becky, thinking his Good Boy Points had compound interest

>>83001676 (OP)
Post a faceless pic of this Stacy or Becky. Zero chance you actually gave a nice girl who is your looks match (which is to say ugly and probably fat) a chance.

>83001941
Nah, the girl in question has gotten naked in front of me before and was actually below my standards (due to being a single mom) I got into a relationship right after that anyway with a much better girl, women just suck at helping men out so they never do it outside of incel larps.

>>83002224
>the bullshit he's had to endure.
Nah if he wasn't such an obsessed faggot who thought he was the protagonist of an anime and she would be his queen if he did enough Nice Guy Quests, he actually could have parlayed this friendship into dating one of her friends and having sex. Instead he fucking asks her out after 7 years over texts then spergs out like a bitch. Sad!

Now just wait until the whole school knows and decides to torment him. I bet he will have to endure the sound of Becky gluckglucking on Tyrone's BBC when she gets drunk at a party and Tyrone rapes her face and his nigger friends tape it just to show OP

OP the only silver lining is you may get to prep and clean the BVLL once this girl ruins her life and has a niglet baby as a single mom. You can be the beta provider and you might even get sloppy seconds after watching her get BLACKEDRAW

>>83002322
POV: You just saw texts of some lame ytboi throwing a hissy fit and decided to offer Becky some protection from the school shooter

>>83002224
you are in all likelihood brown and/or otherwise dysgenic
you are not entitled to anything
you are a hookworm, ringworm maggotous existence and ending you would be a mercy

>>83001676 (OP)
You sack of shit, my best friend did this to me, I'd have taken a bullet for that broad.

>>83002358
a girl you were friends with tried to guilt-trip you into becoming her bf?

>>83002358
>I'd have taken a bullet for that broad.
But would you take a BBC for her? That is OP's future most likely

>>83001676 (OP)
You know how you avoid this?
Don't be "friends" socialize within a month (at most), ask them out and if they reject you or do the "just be friends" respectfully disconnect from them and keep looking.

>friends arent talking to me either
You orbited that girl for the last 7 years to then force an ultimatum on your friendship. Some will likely warm back up and socialize with you later but for now they are trying to get over the fact you are the kind of guy that hides his intentions a little too long and/or will resort to extreme behavior if you don't get you way. Again, it'll cool over but learn from this, you have to be more upfront and not be "friends" with girls too long or you'll do this stupid shit again.

>>83002395
No, he was a chaser, I'm trans btw :3

>>83002238
he probably got his ideas from rpgs or sex games and tried to level up his affection points with cute conversations and gifts lol

>>83002322
>>83002354
That's a whole lot of schizobabble I'm not reading
Happy for you though, or sorry that it happened

>>83001676 (OP)
This is the kind of conversation that you must have in person, never online

Why do people make up this stupid shit to post here

>>83002430
You will never be a woman and your """friend""" only wanted to jizz in your butt.

>>83002455
replies? At least this one has some substance to it, a parable if you will: don't orbit.

>>83002448
Seethe harder faggot, your oneitis is choking on nigger cock

>>83001676 (OP)
>i really hope you have a good life
>proceeds to tell everyone so they can bully you
bruh
most people in this thread are normies btw fuck yall

>>83001699
Even though OP fucked up big time by acting like a sperg, sometimes you just don't know whether you're into someone like that at the start. It's perfectly normal, or should be, to hang out as friends first, a lot of women operate this way, what's strange though is how men are told they shouldn't. The girl in OP was simply never attracted to him and too much of a pussy to admit it so instead resorted to soft rejections that spergs interpret positively as if they still had a chance. "I don't want to mess up our friendship" = "I don't see you as a romantic/sexual partner and never will"

>>83001676 (OP)
Ahahahahahahahahahahahhha you waited way too long and now your drowning in the friend zone retard.

>>83001676 (OP)
another mistake op made is he believed the "i love you as a friend, our friendship is so important to me" line. she just said it to make the rejection less awkward. shes got 50 other friends she couldnt care less about op's friendship lol

lol

if a girl wants to fuck you no "convincing" is needed. even having a girlfriend won't stop her

>>83002453
What does it matter? Having that conversation in person won't magically mean she's not fucking chad anymore (which is what the "friendzone" really is), you can either be a good cucky and give her all your time and money while another guy creampies her womb, or you can scrape up your dignity and go to a massage parlor for a handy instead.

>>83002206
>>83002322
>>83002477
>OP should have been even more platonic with her
>OP is wrong for refusing to be led on

>>83002485
it's likely fake, only normies would assume this is real, it's also norime to just assume OP is telling the full truth and not just his slant on it.
Hell, hating on women -is- the normie thing to do anymore. If you have had the same girlfriend/wife in your life for the past ten years you don't even make 30% of the western world numbers, most are single and childless, hell nearly half of all 40yos still live with parents or comparable family. Even considering what we see as "normie" anymore is strange.

>>83002499
>"I don't want to mess up our friendship" = "I don't see you as a romantic/sexual partner and never will"
No, in this context you are a backup bf for a rainy day, you're in rotation, probably way at the bottom while another guy(s) fucks, if she didn't find you valuable as a partner she just wouldn't talk to you at all. You are a literal cuck if you accept this scenario btw, might as well put on your chastity cage and send her your key.

>>83002549
>>OP is wrong for refusing to be led on
bro, the dude in this situation was hanging on for nearly eight years, this ain't refusing to be lead on this is being out right tied to the cart. Refusing to be led on would be to share your interest early and packing it up when it's clear they won't reciprocate. Not spending two school phases of your life in hopes you get some chance at dating.

>>83002395
Threatening suicide too, what a fuckin disgrace.

>>83002603
It's not a bad strat you can milk a few years or more out of a pushover with that tactic. My ex used it on me

>>83001676 (OP)
OP there's still time, just apologize to this girl, not to repair any friendship but just claw back some of your social group. Otherwise college is gonna be hell, the more you wait , the more you will appear as a creep/predator to other normies, making you a bigger pariah.

Just say something like how you developed feelings for her and were holding them back blah blah and how you did not handle it very well, that you are sorry for acting that way and that you completely understand that if she doesn't wanna forgive you blah blah. This last part is crucial. Just make your apology and do not attempt to contact her again.

If all went well she will mellow down a little , there won't be any friendship but the heat from normies will die down a little.

If she does wish to be friends with you then play the part while slowly distancing yourself from her, you can't be friends anymore as the resentment will always be there.

And for fucks sake don't orbit a girl for 7 fucking years. I mean good god.

>>83002499
>sometimes you just don't know whether you're into someone like that at the start.
Yeah but 5+ years? That's a bit extreme and reeks more of just a low status guy chasing whatever they think they can grab. I get "not at first" but by a year in he have to know.

> too much of a pussy

To play devil's advocate it could have been she did care somewhat about hurting him and didn't know what else to say to ease the blow. A 7 year friendship you likely have a hard time saying "sorry I don't like your face enough" or "sorry but I want a man as a bf"

>normgroid thought orbiting a girl for years would get him pussy
Your suffering brings me joy.

>>83001676 (OP)
Oof, anon. Once she confirmed that she was not interested, you should have just cut contact.
Instead, you go full 'nice guy' and give that cunt sub more fodder, while grenading your own social life.
>Having anything to do with a foid that won't fuck you.
The Friend Zone, not even once.

>>83001676 (OP)
Nigga i hate foids and all but you waited for 8 fucking years??

>>83002549
He led himself on, you dumb faggot

>>83002663
OP do absolutely fucking NONE of this.

Holy shit this is such a beta piece of advice.

Move on, delete her number, start over, hit the gym, and find some new pussy. You should honestly probably see a prostitute just to knock pussy off the pedestal you have it on

op just rape her and then tell her that if shes truly your friend she wont report you

>>83001676 (OP)
just be like i wanna fuck nigga if she like nawww then talk to another woman????? women like guys who talk to lots of different women but the especially like guys who are virgins since they wanna be loyal to they wife like i am a virgin but i talked to twenty thousand woman online
you look super immature and selfish when you just talk to one woman since she knows ur just doing it to fuck her and not since u like her any different from anyone else u wanna fuck its SELFISH AND IDIOTIC
its one thing if you are authentically a selfish idiot which is where the douchebro mentally stereotype comes from but the women those guys fuck are WHORES in EVERY SINGLE CASE AND THEY WILL BETABUX U TO FUCK DOUCHBROS THIS IS A SIMPLE CONCEPT

>>83001676 (OP)
Based if real but only because torpedoing a years long friendship because they won't date you shows how little value they had outside of their holes.

you had a chance to be like this from the start, and let them cut you off before they built up so much (non-romantic) affection toward you, but ending things like this frames it all as a longitudinal attempt to get their pants. now everything was a calculation. every hang out, every time you replied to her venting about her day, it was all an act to lower her guard. you were willing to inflict deep mental wounds on this person over this. bravo.

>>83001938
that's how normalfaggots think, though. normalfags are all about fairness and perceived transactional benefits. you're admitting you're just a failed normalfag if you think this way

>>83001676 (OP)
you forgot crucial number one step before attempting that
step: be chad

>>83001676 (OP)
You have to make your interests known sooner into the start of the relationship or you have to handle it way better than this.
Ultimatums just come across as manipulative and like you have been faking friendship the whole time. Ultimatums will never work unless the girl has absolutely no self-esteem.
Generally if you are friends with a girl and start noticing feelings for them, you need to confess in a way that puts the decision in their court in a way that makes them feel valued as opposed to an ultimatum.

Orbiters are actually sub human, lol.

>>83001822
i have and the girls pregnant now

hahaha holy shit op youre such a fucking retard

"we are friends that means im entitled to you being my girlfriend now!"
fucking dumbfuck idiot

why even argue? did you think you could convince her into being attracted to you?
if she wanted to date you she wouldve fucked you ages ago
idiot

>>83003329
>you were willing to inflict deep mental wounds on this person over this. bravo.
>Some spergy simp crying NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME PUSSY!!!
>deep mental wounds
Lol. Lmao even

>>83003329
this
op is what women mean when they talk about "nice guys"

>>83003858
>why even argue? did you think you could convince her into being attracted to you?
He really tried to win the argument for a dry pussy

>>83001676 (OP)
i thought this type of "nice guy" went extinct

>>83002438
That sex discussion tree doesn't open until you pass the charisma check

>>83001676 (OP)
She was never attracted to you in the first place. Being with someone isn't some decision you make. It naturally grows and you feel like it's inevitable if you are compatible and there's mutual desire.
She should have been honest and outright said this. That she doesn't desire you, never did, and never will. Frankly, this outcome is better than someone settling for you or hoping things will work if you get together.

>>83002438
>>83004165
If you want a meta game equivalent it's like a 4x game where you have to balance everything and time it right. No mini maxing shit and no grinding, you have to get it to all to come together and early for it to work.

>>83001676 (OP)
What a fucking sperg thing to do!!! Over TEXT CHAT!?

You understand nothing about how you get people to do what you want, let alone women.