Thread 83009910

Wanna know what happens when you die?

Well first lets start in the beginning. You see frens in the before there was time everything was condensed into a nothing sized spek. The spek was so tight and heavy that it eventually exploded. It was what some call a bang that was quite large. After the bang everything started expanding and with it came earths suns and moons. It has not stopped yet, it keeps growing. Eventually it will get so large that it will begin to implode on itself. When it does everything will start to condense back into a tiny spek again. We are all dead by this point. Unil the tiny little spek bangs again. Everything starts over and everything happens and lines up the same way it did before and will continue forever infinity times. So what happens after you die? You go to sleep and wake up born in the same life you have now. Time will pass instantly in the void, you will not know what happen after you are gone. So right now you are reading this but guess what you already have before and will continue to read this forever infinity times.

>>83009910 (OP)
>big bang
>and the universe just keeps expanding forever
>until the next big bang
Sounds like bullshit, I don't believe it.

>>83009910 (OP)
>You go to sleep and wake up born in the same life you have now. Time will pass instantly in the void, you will not know what happen after you are gone.

UHhhhH so what you are saying is that after I die I just wake up being birthed in a hospital again? A never ending time loop??? What about babies that die at birth do they just keep being born and die forever ? Holy fucking dude

>>83009925
>The "Big Crunch" theory is an older concept suggesting the universe's expansion will reverse due to gravity, causing it to collapse back into a single point. This has led to theories of cyclic universes, where a "Big Bounce" follows the Big Crunch, leading to a new Big Bang. While the current standard model predicts eternal expansion, some recent theories and evidence for evolving dark energy propose that a future contraction is a possibility.

>>83009925
>Sounds like bullshit, I don't believe it.

The Big Bang is the leading scientific explanation for the universe's origin, which began approximately \(13.8\) billion years ago as an extremely hot, dense point that rapidly expanded. As it expanded, the universe cooled, allowing energy to transform into matter, forming subatomic particles, then protons and neutrons, and eventually the first atoms like hydrogen and helium. These primordial elements clumped together under gravity to form stars and galaxies, and the universe continues to expand today.

>>83009910 (OP)
One thing worth thinking about is that in quantum mechanics the double slit experiment shows that atoms change their behaviour when viewed by a conscious being, so this suggests things in the world/universe would be different if consciousness /sentient beings did not exist. So some people believe consciousness is needed in the universe so it can be observed and that's why life is able to evolve, not by chance but because it has to so sentient beings can come to being and observe the universe and say "yes the universe is real". There's some Through The Wormhole episodes which explain it better.

And if consciousness is energy and energy only transfers never just disappears this could suggest that there is some electromagnetic spectrum where consciousness could live on outside the human mind as it has be proven that thoughts can travel between minds through the electromagnetic spectrum. Like animals use the earth's magnetic field to navigate, what if consciousness dissipated into this field after death? This is not my belief but just a random theory/thought process, seeing as we have no understanding why existence exists in the first place. just some interesting things to think about.

>>83009910 (OP)
>religion wants you to believe a magic sky wizard created the universe
>science wants you to believe there was nothing and then there was a random explosion and now the universe exists
both are absurd and completely unbelievable

>>83009910 (OP)
I wanna come back as a bird, like a bird big, like an albatross

>>83009910 (OP)
I heard a priest say heaven is like a big party with all your friends and Jesus, which has me really scared of the after life now.

>>83010564
supposedly what heaven actually is is you just stand around the throne of god and you yell "holy holy holy" forever
sounds lame as fuck to me

>>83010586
I would still much rather do this than have to talk to anyone from earth honestly. The other description makes me think of that image of the family sitting around the table all smugly staring as you walk in to join them.

>>83009910 (OP)
i love you fren, for infinity

>>83010541
Maybe both. Maybe God created the bang. Maybe God is the universe itself.

>>83009910 (OP)
>>83010541
>>83010649
>deniers of the truth
Everyone knows the giganigga created the universe.

>>83009910 (OP)
>wake up again in the same life
>have to type this post out again
>perma suffering again
So, how do I make it stop? Can I make it stop? Is there a way to get the message across that I should just kms as soon as I achieve consciousness?

>>83010034
The double slit experiment does not require a conscious mind to observe anything. In quantum mechanics, observation just means interaction with a measuring device, not a brain watching it. The wave behavior collapses even if nobody looks at the data, so consciousness is not involved.

Consciousness also is not energy. In physics, energy is a measurable property and thoughts are not conserved like heat or motion. There is no evidence that consciousness survives death or radiates into the electromagnetic field. Brain signals are extremely weak and do not leave the skull.

It is a cool idea, but it mixes misunderstood quantum mechanics with New Age assumptions. Without evidence, it stays science fiction speculation, not science.

>>83010735
>Is there a way to get the message across
Think of OP as a divine spirit from the future. He just gave you the all knowing knowledge of the universe. Now it's time for you to make changes to your life for the better or suffer infinity.

trippy

>>83010805
I'm ill and I can't be fixed through some self improvement shit lmao, so I just have to suffer over and over for infinity? I'm not your average loserfag on here who just gave up for no reason unfortunately. I'm guessing I should just start doing drugs

>>83010898
>so I just have to suffer over and over for infinity?
Unfortunately yes. If OPs theory is correct. However i would argue that if the universe were to contract and restart, it would not end up being the same. Perhaps we all get a different life. Or perhaps a life in the eternal void.

>>83010541
science can only explain things within the confines of our reality. The most likely explanation is that the universe was formed by something outside of itself, which we can't measure nor observe and probably never will. It wasn't a skywizard though if you faggots still believe in some benevolent god. It's most likely a simulation or something similar unironically. The universe outside this one might have different laws. We'll never know.

>>83011029
>denies God
>believes in simulations
Stop watching porn retard

>>83011041
God might be real, or a "creator" more specifically. But it's not a benevolent skywizard who wants you to live according to morals which some desert dwellers shat out millenia ago. You can't prove or disprove anything I said, retard. We can't measure or observe something outside of reality.

>>83010771
You speak of consciousness and matter as if they are simple tools to be weighed and measured, but you forget the oldest truth: the map is not the territory. Quantum mechanics describes behavior, but it does not explain the essence of being. Observation in physics is an interaction of forces, yes, but awareness is something deeper. It is not defined by equipment or data, but by the spark that asks the question in the first place.

Energy, thought, and identity are bound in ways we still fail to grasp. The brain is a vessel, not the storm. To assume consciousness ends because we lack the eyes to watch it continue is the mistake of every generation that believed it had learned enough.

Science is a lamp in the dark, not the sun. It lights what is near and leaves the rest in shadow. One day you may find that the boundary between the observer and the observed is thinner than you imagine, and when that day comes, remember this moment.

>>83011079
That might be correct anon, but consciousness could also just be something unique to the brain and you'd be entirely wrong in everything you said. It's just impossible to know as of yet. Sometimes answers are simpler than we'd like to imagine.

>>83011079
You cling to your definitions and instruments as if they grant you power over truth. How small your vision is. You speak of consciousness like a simple spark, yet you fear the dark without ever asking what gazes back. Physics is a childs comfort, scribbled to calm minds that tremble at the unknown.

Matter dances when witnessed, and you insist the witness is nothing but gears and wires. Fool. Awareness is the catalyst, the unseen hand. Break the flesh and the storm still roars. Identity does not end with bone, any more than the wind ends when you close a window.

Your science shines a narrow lamp and declares that what lies beyond its circle does not exist. But I have stared past that edge. The observer and the observed are bound, and when the veil thins, you will learn this truth. Not by equation, but by fear. Remember these words when the light goes out.

>>83011120
Fair point. It is possible that consciousness is just a product of the brain and nothing more. But the fact that we cannot explain it fully yet is exactly why people explore different ideas. Until we understand how subjective experience arises from matter, every explanation is incomplete. Simplicity is appealing, but sometimes the universe turns out to be more complex than our first guesses. For now the honest answer is that we do not know, and that uncertainty is what keeps the discussion alive.

>You die and wake up born in the same life you have now
ETERNAL VIRGIN

>>83011266
Forever goon

>>83010598
Well look who finally decided to come out of their room!

>>83011536
Exactly. "Have fun with your little video games and waifus? None of those up here with the big man!"
Can literally imagine it in my head

>>83011266
THERE ARE UNLIMITED VIRGINS WAITING FOR US IN THE AFTER LIFE ASHFRILAMULLADA

>>83010547
Based. Me too. Fishing and flying, nothing better.

>>83011817
unlimited virgnity, more like