Thread 83051548

Setting boundaries seems pretty unviable for men imo. Either you let women walk all over you or they find someone else who will.
We're way too replaceable for the possibility of a healthy relationship.
I don't think this will be fixed in our lifetime.

>>83051548 (OP)
city boy mindset

>>83051548 (OP)
I was thinking about the same thing today. Before no fault divorce the marriage contract was pretty much our only resource in a relationship to have any say in anything, but that is long gone now, we have zero power.

>>83051548 (OP)
Women are literally begging for rules and boundaries. They want to be dominated but they're surronded by men who want to submit to them or just use them up like a tissue.

It's one thing to be a paypig and another to pamper your girl before treating her like a whore in bed. The ideal relationship for women is making them feel respected and objectified at the right place and time.

>>83051634
My experience has been that women are pathologically disobedient, even towards their boyfriends. Maybe they fantasize about being dominated, but they won't accept it in reality.

>>83051634
>>83051688
Even in their fantasies their "submission" is entirely up to her and according to her ruleset. A daddy dom who does everything to them whenever they ask, occassionally doing something for him whenever they feel like.

>>83051548 (OP)
This is a post made by a virgin. Girls will treat you better and respect you more if you have firm boundaries and not the other way around, if your spineless girls will just use you untill they get bored and then throw you away.
Ofcourse if you have 0 smv then a girl has no reason to invest so they will leave you but thats a reason to improoooov and not to be spineless lmao

>>83051688
>>83051789
If you want to get into the weeds of it, humans want control because it's something we didn't have in abundance for a very long time.
You lived in a cave or comparable and how much you ate and slept was at the mercy of weather and wild life. This made humans fight more and more to get control over the chaos of life but in the last 300 years everything has gone too fast and now humans have so much control over their life it has become detrimental.
You didn't need to enforce boundaries 400 years ago, nature did it for you, that woman couldn't get an apartment with central air and netflix with her filler job that contributes nothing to the community, have security or the police to call up if something went south, she didn't have the pill to ensure no child was made with a man she was unsure of. What she had was a chaotic world where she was born the weaker sex and would need either family or someone outside her family to help protect and give some provisions as well, so men and women for millions of years had to "settle" due to what the world brought with it.
Now however, we have tamed the world to a point that it looks far safer than what it actually is so men and women have to figure everything out without the pressure of nature crashing on them every day.

>>83051860
I'm not a virgin, and every attempt to set boundaries has gotten me ghosted.

>>83051880
I'm curious what the Boundaries were and when/how they were set.

>>83051880
Can you explain how you usally go about setting boundaries because Im honestly not trying to be mean but its probably because you did it in an autistic way lol

>>83051908
This, if we can't depict him as an autist retard we don't have a case against him

>>83051908
>>83051915
I think it's more like anything else and it's when/where things are applied. It's like wanting to talk about your sexual fetishes on the first date, you can certainly do that, but the woman is just going to assume you want a booty call and that impacts the rest of the date. If ashe is wanting something more she's going to pack up and leave, if she is fine with just a booty call then you have open the door for her to push the limits of your wallet or she'll just leave thinking she can be a sex toy to someone better.

All this shit is a game, you have to learn the rhythms and combos and if you don't like playing it you are just going to lose.

>>83051901
>>83051908
Asked one girl not to talk about her exes and guy friends so much because it makes me uncomfortable. Got mad at another for spreading around an embarrassing secret of mine for laughs. Both of them also promised they wouldn't ghost me and broke said promise.

>>83051957
Sounds like your girlfriends wanted to neg and humiliate you from the beginning, better luck next time.

>>83051634
What are some examples of rules and boundaries that women are likely to respect?

>>83051957
>Asked one girl not to talk about her exes and guy friends so much because it makes me uncomfortable.
If we are talking first date or setup for one she likely took you as being to jealous, she has no context why that bothers you. If this is something like six months of dating, then you dodge a bullet anyway. Any women that talks a great deal about past relationships that far in isn't that into you.

>Got mad at another for spreading around an embarrassing secret of mine for laughs.
Those always suck and keep in mind it's a lesson not to have secrets or even to accept them being aired out. GFs or no, those things will always be used against you so it's better to let everything about you just exist and fall where it may. Also she likely did her own disservices with that stunt, people know not to trust her now.

>Both of them also promised they wouldn't ghost me and broke said promise

Define "ghosting" because I've notice some people have break ups and they still call it ghosting after the break up which isn't ghosting unless they said they keep in touch.

Finally learn not to live in a world of "promises" it's a bullshit concept that just lets sociopaths have fun. I can fuck with you if we have rules that are about swearing and oaths, I can't fuck with you if you can live in a world of uncertainty, it's like a Chinese finger trap, taking people at their "yes" and "no" should always be enough with the understanding nothing is certain. Saints become sinners from single actions and all that.

>>83051548 (OP)
I'm a fembot and I don't replace the people I love. I feel very strong for them and then lose them somehow, leaving a hole that makes it harder to love.
I to this day have never left anyone.

>>83052039
>If we are talking first date or setup for one she likely took you as being to jealous, she has no context why that bothers you. If this is something like six months of dating, then you dodge a bullet anyway. Any women that talks a great deal about past relationships that far in isn't that into you.
We were like 2 months in, she started by talking about some gifts she had gotten from one of her male friends, and I kept my mouth shut, and then over the next few days it seemed like she was taking every possible opportunity to talk about her time spent with other men.
>Those always suck and keep in mind it's a lesson not to have secrets or even to accept them being aired out. GFs or no, those things will always be used against you so it's better to let everything about you just exist and fall where it may. Also she likely did her own disservices with that stunt, people know not to trust her now.
I'm not a particularly secretive or distrustful person by nature. I also doubt it had any lasting impact on how her friends view her at all.
>Define "ghosting" because I've notice some people have break ups and they still call it ghosting after the break up which isn't ghosting unless they said they keep in touch.
Suddenly not replying for at least 2 days, without warning.

>>83052092
>I also doubt it had any lasting impact on how her friends view her at all.
trust me, it does, it's not at the front of their mind but they know what she is capable of and that will effect things, they might even wrongly accuse her of rumors happening or shit getting aired out because they know she just blabs.

>Suddenly not replying for at least 2 days, without warning.
Right but did they break up with you prior and you weren't taking the hint?

Women aren't attracted to doormats though

Women hate people pleasers because they are the same themselves (act nice to fish out support)

They want someone they can benefit from being around

>>83052121
>Right but did they break up with you prior and you weren't taking the hint?
Definitely not. Like I said, suddenly, without warning.

>>83052136
Women aren't attracted to anyone really. They enjoy being desired and then they get bored.
The benefit that keeps them around is money.

>>83052136
I'm not a doormat, I express my emotions clearly, and I know what I want and don't want.

>>83052035
Still no answer to this btw

>>83051634
Yeah sure, they want to be dominated, that's why they initiate the overwhelming majority of divorces. Lol.

>>83051548 (OP)
everybody holds their own power. don't give it away to the people you don't want to have power.

>>83052586
Okay but if you're in love with someone you're probably going to trust them, and you might want to be vulnerable with them too.