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Anonymous No.83070092 [Report] >>83070109 >>83070115 >>83070122 >>83070133 >>83070264 >>83070292 >>83070365 >>83070545 >>83070726 >>83070816 >>83071400 >>83071561 >>83071565 >>83071975 >>83071983 >>83072118 >>83072152 >>83072185 >>83072226 >>83073112 >>83074684 >>83074696
Women are finally sympathizing with incels
Wholesome news. Women are now sympathising with us incels. This is groundbreaking
Anonymous No.83070105 [Report] >>83070117 >>83071362 >>83074587
Once the Shitskins take over the West, these cunts will all be sex slaves and I will laugh at them 24/7
Anonymous No.83070109 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
>black
>human
Anonymous No.83070115 [Report] >>83070123 >>83070197 >>83070696
>>83070092 (OP)
2.4k likes isn't indicative of anything
Anonymous No.83070117 [Report] >>83070277 >>83074547
>>83070105
Fun fact: women would rather be subservient to a shitskin than an incel
Anonymous No.83070122 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
the men they're complaining about are being beaten by niggers in retirement homes, the longhouse has been demoralizing and chastising men for over 30 years at this point
Anonymous No.83070123 [Report]
>>83070115
Copium
Gen Z women definitely think like OP
look at their voting records
Anonymous No.83070133 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
pretty convincing arguments for f*male slavery, ngl
Anonymous No.83070180 [Report] >>83070219 >>83070315 >>83070959 >>83071429 >>83071576 >>83072011 >>83073476 >>83074641 >>83074751
Le Women Were Oppressed Myth

Is this the greatest Jewish trick in history?

Women were never oppressed.

1. In most cultures throughout history, the daughter still had to consent to a marriage recommended to her by her father. You really think fathers in the past are different to fathers today and would force their daughters to marry an ugly incel that smelled like shit? Lmfao. No. Fathers have always been protective of their daughters.

2. Women managed the household money and worked jobs throughout history. During the industrial revolution, they could stay at home finally due to increased living standards. Then feminists came and claimed women were being oppressed. It was also the case that in most lower class families, women managed the household income/wealth.

3. Women always had the able to be educated, for purposes of educating their children, their lack of interest or participation was not due to discrimination (except in religious institutions where this is objectively true they were discriminated), as can be evidenced by the countless letters socialite women would send to philosophers and literary men throughout the centuries. Nevertheless, women who engaged with philosophy and science, never bothered to really do anything of their own. Their interest was purely surface level.

4. Women always could write and publish works. Most famously, the ancient prophetic scrolls that Roman emperors would refer to were written by Women and the oracle at Delphi was a woman (most famously even visited by Alexander the Great).


The entire history of feminism is a lie.
Anonymous No.83070197 [Report] >>83070704
>>83070115
Most girls think like this. Unless they are redpilled, ultra religious or pickme.
> t. foid
Anonymous No.83070219 [Report] >>83070283 >>83076051
>>83070180
>Women always had the able to be educated [...] Their interest was purely surface level
Marie Curie would like to have a word with you.

In all seriousness, this is such a retarded (and unfactual) take.
Anonymous No.83070253 [Report]
I guess being a pickme is the new meta for attentionseeking from men.
Anonymous No.83070264 [Report] >>83074590
>>83070092 (OP)
>They think they're free
lol
Only a minority of women have rights, most still live in patriarchal countries. Also, even the ones that live in "free" countries can lose their rights in one day if men decide so
Women are weaker than men, therefore they always will be subjugated. It's incredible how they can't understand such a simple concept
>le laws
Who makes the laws? Who keeps the laws? Who put the laws to work?
Anonymous No.83070277 [Report]
>>83070117
It isn't like they've a choice. They always will be subservient to someone, the difference is the group doing it
Anonymous No.83070279 [Report]
The weird thing is they still prefer the slave master
Anonymous No.83070283 [Report] >>83070313 >>83070320 >>83075783
>>83070219
>Marie Curie would like to have a word with you.
Pierre Curie, the cuck who was behind her every success while she leeched, would like a whole conversation with you.

99% of "great" women in history are something inbetween a scammer, a parasite or just a big hyperbole.
Anonymous No.83070292 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
RFH loves to talk about how wives are slaves forced to raise children in spite of the fact that she's one of the few women to have lost custody.
Anonymous No.83070313 [Report] >>83070325 >>83070350
>>83070283
Mileva maric (einstein's wife) would like to have a word with you. How many women were denied the ability to be recognized for their work, simply because they don't have a dick?

Marie Curie earned her prizes, and rightfully so. You are just a bitter man who hates women to make himself feel better.
Anonymous No.83070315 [Report] >>83070343 >>83070625 >>83072011
>>83070180
>Their interest was purely surface level.
This has never changed btw.

One of the things you will notice, once you go to college as a man with an IQ of at least 120, is how fucking stupid women really are. They are all lib, feminist and narcissistic but have absolutely zero brain or interest in the subject.

The only ambition they have, if they do have any in the first place, is a concept of getting a diploma. They have zero interest in the subject, just the certification which she thinks establishes her in higher social standing. They also tended to very arrogant.

I've never seen a single student woman, through almost a decade of my study, to be interested in the topic she's learning. Not one. Yet, countless men have.
Anonymous No.83070320 [Report] >>83070366
>>83070283
Yeah kek
The chinese empress(Wu Zetian), Cleopatra, etc...it's always some version of fucking men to get up there
Anonymous No.83070325 [Report] >>83070343
>>83070313
That has proven multiple times to be false. Einstein was magnitudes smarter than his wife, while the opposite isn't truth to Marie
As always, women and simps compare the incomparable
Anonymous No.83070343 [Report] >>83070359 >>83070625 >>83070760 >>83071420
>>83070325
>>83070315
Honestly i'm not even gonna engage with this. Its like what OP's picrel is saying, you are just incredibly bitter because you don't have a wife yet. When you get one (and hopefully you get one, and a daughter too) I assume you will be able to humanize women more. Until then, you guys will probably stay bitter. I need to go back to my studies i don't got time for this.
Anonymous No.83070350 [Report] >>83071615
>>83070313
Mileva was purely trained by Einstein. Why do you think they were together in the first place? You're just a retarded feminist who think reading a propaganda piece equals to knowing history (like most women, you're fucking retarded). Reddit awaits to coddle your delusions.

Every woman I've ever interacted with during phd or bachelor was just a parasite on men.
95%+ of them wouldn't even graduate if men didn't constantly help them.

I personally made 3 women drop out by simply ignoring them and not helping them, as due to circumstances, I was the only guy there with the actual knowledge of the topic they were studying. One thing those snakes knew is how to manipulate men. I am impervious to that and they hated it. Women do not understand Physics.
If woman is in any "high" position anywhere it just means she's a manipulative cunt..


Pierre Curie was a world-known physicist with multiple breakthroughs at a time. Suddenly, Marie, a student not known for anything anywhere, with a father who's a professor, magically appears in his life. Her cuck husband, who she cheated on shortly after, taught her everything and gave her every piece of information which she later stole from him.
Anonymous No.83070353 [Report] >>83071565
Just be attractive, rich, and white. So glad women have lowered their standards.
Anonymous No.83070359 [Report]
>>83070343
>uhm you're wrong because you're BITTER INCEL!
Kill yourself you disgusting fat feminist retard.
Truth does not care about your feelings.
Anonymous No.83070365 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
>putting ugly, short and broke on the same level as abusive
Brutal
Anonymous No.83070366 [Report]
>>83070320
Nice of you to pick the 1%.
>etc
Lol, there's so few of them, I could pull millions of men with power above them.
Anonymous No.83070545 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
I think this lady is really exposing her age here, I was born in the late 90s and all I ever heard growing up is how girls were amazing, smarter than me, and more mature and independent than me and that the best I should aspire to in life is being a beta provider for a woman. This idea that women are slaves (aka that they do basic household chores that even the dumbest and uneducated illegal immigrants can do professionally and are expected to have sex with their betabux instead of getting ran through by Chads, ewww) is complete cope, mostly propagated by older and single women that are bitter about failing at the easiest task ever (getting a boyfriend) and are trying to twist it into some kind of brave choice they're making.
Anonymous No.83070625 [Report] >>83071412
>>83070315
I think women are capable of being intelligent but they have to work really hard to overcome their desire to lean on groupthink. It's just way, way easier for them to shame people into agreeing than to actually convince them. And you'd do it too, if you could. The internet more or less proves everyone reverts to shame based arguments when they can. For example, see how >>83070343 instantly reverts to name calling to try and win the argument. It's just easier than engaging in good faith.
Anonymous No.83070696 [Report] >>83070863
>>83070115
RFH is such an insane cunt that she lost a custody battle for her own children in the gynocentric courts, her mental health was cited as a major reason
Anonymous No.83070704 [Report]
>>83070197
>women are retarded

thanks for telling us, that's sort of understood on this board though so you needn't have expended the effort
Anonymous No.83070726 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
>sympathizing
Yeah, I'll believe that when one wants to be my fuck-slave.
Anonymous No.83070760 [Report] >>83070874
>>83070343
They're not "incredibly bitter" for making observations and arguing within their lived experience which happens to coincide with observable reality. You are a concern trolling bad actor trying to take away people's agency by making them seem unreasonable for expressing an opinion that runs counter the status quo and more importantly, counter your hurt feelings.

>I need to go back to my studies i don't got time for this.

Why come to a community full of opinions and arguments you resent at all if you ostensibly have productive things to do with your time? I sure hope your intelligence is more applicable to rote learning and regurgitating bullshit onto paper that your professors want to hear because willingly engaging with large quantities of people you seem to disdain and disagree with for no positive outcome is the definition of stupidity. You're not changing minds here, go live your life.
Anonymous No.83070816 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
>I'd go a lil crazy
>completely ignores the tranny takeover
Anonymous No.83070863 [Report] >>83071267
>>83070696
SOURCE ON THIS THIS SHIT SOUNDS HILARIOUS AND I WANNA DELIGHT IN THE MISERY
Anonymous No.83070874 [Report]
>>83070760
>You're not changing minds here, go live your life.

Wish I could man. I dont have much disdain for people here, just sorrow really. I've realised that it's better for me to engage with bitter people in real life rather than online. It's more effective. I have learnt a lesson or two here though.
Anonymous No.83070959 [Report]
>>83070180
you are simply a different kind of feminist. none of those things are true.
Anonymous No.83071172 [Report] >>83071292
She's right and I wholeheartedly support women's rights and their autonomy. Women should depend on and live under the power of people like RFH. You don't genuinely despise women if you're not a feminist, you still believe that things can be "fixed".
Anonymous No.83071267 [Report] >>83072483
>>83070863
it's in her kiwi dossier somewhere, she's also a heroin addict
Anonymous No.83071292 [Report] >>83071333
>>83071172
>my woman
Patriarchy method
>other women
Feminism for them to suffer their whole life and regret being a cat mother at 50
Anonymous No.83071333 [Report]
>>83071292
It's not just the cat lady thing, I want them to be stripped of the only real resource they ever had, male goodwill and it looks like I just might get my wish.
Anonymous No.83071362 [Report]
>>83070105
Amalek get wiped.
Shit skins and kikes are the only ones left
Shit skins get wiped
Kikes are the only ones left
Jew infighting leads to all kikes killing each other.
All roads lead to nowhere.
Anonymous No.83071400 [Report] >>83071574
>>83070092 (OP)
this is still dishonest mockery
Anonymous No.83071412 [Report]
>>83070625
The post you linked was a woman. It's expected.
Anonymous No.83071420 [Report]
>>83070343
>yet
so optimistic
Anonymous No.83071429 [Report]
>>83070180
>You really think fathers in the past are different to fathers today and would force their daughters to marry an ugly incel that smelled like shit?
Yes. See: India
Anonymous No.83071511 [Report] >>83071550
And yet despite all these rights and freedoms women still have the slaves safety net and many of them consciously choose to be a deadbeat man's slave instead of doing anything meaningful with their lives.

They now have all of the privileges of being a man but none of the responsibilities and none of the brutal darwinist consequences for failure that a man faces.
Anonymous No.83071550 [Report]
>>83071511
Checked and Estar-pilled.
Anonymous No.83071561 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
>were promised wives at one point
That never happened. I just wanted to not be bullied in school and have a group of friends and a girlfriend like all the other boys my age did.
Anonymous No.83071565 [Report] >>83071573 >>83071764 >>83072603
>>83070092 (OP)
>>83070353
Imagine looking like this and having those silly opinions

I would love the confidence of cunt looking bitch without responsibility and accountability
Anonymous No.83071569 [Report]
Giving women the right to vote was a complete fucking mistake
Anonymous No.83071573 [Report]
>>83071565
No fucking way hahahahahaha
Anonymous No.83071574 [Report]
>>83071400
It is, it's still catty female shallowness. This is why incels don't need to feel sorry for hagmales complaining about not being married to Chad.
Anonymous No.83071576 [Report]
>>83070180
You are not entirely incorrect but you are talking about fringe cases. Most women had no access to anything and no ground to stand on in terms of whatever they wanted. Humans used to be not at all protective of their kids, cherishing children is a new age invention caused by the deficit and rarity of said children. For most of history, kids were seen quite literally as sub(half-)humans
Anonymous No.83071592 [Report] >>83071764
>taking RFH seriously
None of these bitter cunts believe anything they are saying
Anonymous No.83071615 [Report] >>83071675
>>83070350
Mileva did all the grunt work for Einstein. Whenever he was smarter or something doesn't matter because in this case he was quite literally the parasite (using her body as energy host). Not to mention that without her he would have drown in his own toe fungus and die.
Anonymous No.83071633 [Report] >>83071764
How exactly did RFH became r9ks top 1 femcel idol? The bitch literally has 2k views, how do you even know of her?
Anonymous No.83071675 [Report]
>>83071615
Are you a chatbot trying to come up with bad ragebait? Reddit awaits to coddle your fat feminist delusions.

You're obese.
Anonymous No.83071764 [Report]
>>83071633
>>83071592
>>83071565
Discord troons are always posting anti-incel bait and scour 1,000 different social media sites looking for anything shitting on incels to do this.
Anonymous No.83071799 [Report]
Pretty bored with the wave of mediocrity of commoners nowadays. No it doesn't matter if you're whatever, you can still squeeze joy and peace out of life easily.
Anonymous No.83071975 [Report] >>83072147 >>83072695 >>83073018
>>83070092 (OP)
I really cannot wrap my head around how foids managed to be tricked into thinking labor is freeing while leisure is enslaving. Nobody would say that it is the peasant who oppresses his lord by depriving him of labor, but this is the logic used to affirm that husbands oppressed their wives in the 20th century.
And I note here that women at large were only freed of labor in the 20th century, as any cursory glance of history will show you that poor women, who in pre-industrial and early industrial societies constituted the vast majority of women, always had to work. It was only in the 20th century that the incredible prosperity of Western society allowed for a large fraction of women to enjoy leisure.
Since then, of course, the material conditions of the Western population have rapidly declined, with a sustained loss of buying power, stagnation of wages, and rise in the cost of living. Notice that concurrent to this decrease in the quality of life was the (re-)entering of women in the workforce.
Now ask yourself, cui bono? Is it women who benefit by working, or is it the same group of neoliberal overlords who benefit from the enserfication of the masses?
Anonymous No.83071983 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
Imagine trusting anything a resentful drug addicted hapa says in 2025
Anonymous No.83072011 [Report]
>>83070180
If you tie your identity, sense of self to your utility to women... Then the moment you're not seen as useful is the moment you'll get depressed and possibly even end up killing yourself. It's internalized gynocentrism. Maybe it's the cost of having kids if you want them, but if you're not having kids there is 0 point to assuming this role

Why do you think men that get divorce raped have very high rates of suicide? Besides the financial rape, their whole identity and purpose is also stripped away

>>83070315
I have also perceived this. They're extremely petty, superficial and status obsessed. And you know the worst part? They get away with it because most men are thirsty simps that will excuse the most abhorrent of behaviors
Anonymous No.83072118 [Report] >>83072171
>>83070092 (OP)
Why did she throw the abusive ones into the mix when those guys always manage to have a gf?
Anonymous No.83072147 [Report] >>83072173 >>83072607
>>83071975
you know that anime trope of the warrior who is so overpowered he's bored with life and is trying to find someone will be fun to fight, even if it kills them?
that's what "unlimited leisure" without the ability to have sex with who she wants feels like to women. They literally feel like their life is pointless if they aren't getting Chad semen. People hate boredom above all things.
Anonymous No.83072152 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
Friendly reminder RFH is a junkie whore who managed to lose custody of her kids to her ex-husband.
Anonymous No.83072171 [Report]
>>83072118
It's because she is trying to construct a villainous imagery of her enemies to not feel bad about butchering them. It's a thing women and effeminate men do.
Men with strong wills are able to recognize and fairly evaluate the moral character of their enemies while nevertheless maintaining the conviction to fight them.
Anonymous No.83072173 [Report]
>>83072147
Boredom is a personal problem that reflects a lack of substance. I don't trust anyone that relies on other people to not feel "bored".
Anonymous No.83072185 [Report] >>83074658
>>83070092 (OP)
>some twitter insufferable and chronically online nigger girl
>I still dont feel bad
>username is playboy bunny
Come on, OP. Foids are not sympathizing for shit. That will never happen. Come on man you know better. Im assuming the original Twitter poster is a woman too. >Cant even blame MEN
>ugly, short, abusive
These are passive aggressive and ironic posts, man. Come the fuck on
Anonymous No.83072226 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
What's hilarious and pitiful is that Chads do all the negatives things she listed constantly and will still walk free and get a free pass, they'd even consider all his dark triad traits to be "hot" red flags which makes him redeemable and "can fix him" material, while poor incels will get all the blame and hate for what the top 10% of men are culpable and responsible for.
It's all so tiresome.
Anonymous No.83072483 [Report]
>>83071267
>WOMAN WHO DESPERATELY PROJECTS THAT SHE'S INDEPENDENT AND HATES MEN
>IS ACTUALLY A JUNKIE WHO LOST HER KIDS TO SOME GUY IN EUROPE
THAT'S ACTUALLY HILARIOUS THIS BITCH IS AN INVERSE MGTOW
Anonymous No.83072515 [Report] >>83072545
Gay thread.

Ugly women still get with ugly men. Ugly men still reproduce.

They reproduce less than before, but so is everyone. I'm so tired of gender war grifters.
Anonymous No.83072545 [Report] >>83074345
>>83072515
Who cares about ugly or beautiful? Women are trash, they can have a 10/10 face and body, they still are trash
Anonymous No.83072603 [Report] >>83072805
>>83071565
whites have the most shallow and mentally ill women out of any race.
Anonymous No.83072607 [Report]
>>83072147
based and Kierkegaard pilled.
"Boredom is the root of all evil." - Soren Kierkegaard
Anonymous No.83072695 [Report]
>>83071975
>Nobody would say that it is the peasant who oppresses his lord by depriving him of labor
Anonymous No.83072805 [Report] >>83072828 >>83072869
>>83072603
men always say dumb shit like this lol, there is not a single race of women who arent shallow or any less shallow than the others. if u think differently ur probs just a white man who gets worshipped outside of western countries cuz status
Anonymous No.83072828 [Report] >>83072893 >>83072923
>>83072805
Go to any other country you will see young people who are looksmatched already starting lives together. I've traveled. White women are uniquely mentally ill and shallow
Anonymous No.83072869 [Report]
>>83072805
And this woman is 40yo still talking like this
Anonymous No.83072893 [Report] >>83072929
>>83072828
The more you spoil women, the more tyrannical they become. Muslims don't have these problems. Africans don't have these problems. They are not spoiled women.
Anonymous No.83072923 [Report]
>>83072828
do you think being shallow only pertains to looks?
Anonymous No.83072929 [Report] >>83072944
>>83072893
suppressing womens shallowness doesnt mean they arent shallow, they just dont have the freedom to exercise it
Anonymous No.83072944 [Report]
>>83072929
Who cares. If it is between males happiness and female happiness, I'll take male happiness. At least that means my empire will actually continue on and not shrink to the point of being conquered by outside groups that prioritize male happiness.
Anonymous No.83073018 [Report]
>>83071975
Arbrit macht frei, have you forgotten the legacy of the greatest person of the 20th century?
Anonymous No.83073031 [Report]
Nothing is ever enough for women. Take those men who go to SEA, he goes there, and for a time the women he obtains thinks herself a winner. She has a wealthy man, a tall man, but then he brings her back and she realizes there are taller men, wealthier men. There is nothing the average man can do in this scenario. If average man became a millionaire, women would want the billionaires. You can not satisfy women and this at the detriment of your empire. We all know we easily satisfy men. So why don't we? Why don't we grow our empire. Take power instead of constantly being on the decline? Reminder that even now women are still miserable, look at that bitch in OP and all the women like her. Nothing will ever make them happy. Why not prioritize male happiness in such a case? You lose nothing
Anonymous No.83073053 [Report] >>83073258
they are not sympathizing lmao

they're patronizing and gloating
Anonymous No.83073112 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
I don't care about their sympathizing. What women need to do is pair up with men and shit out kids.
Everything else is a distraction.
Anonymous No.83073258 [Report]
>>83073053
That's women's sympathy
Anonymous No.83073476 [Report]
>>83070180
It's far worse than that ackshually. Every early society was matriarchal, therefore one can surmise it began as a sorority of Karens conspiring to cleanse ethnic males intent on capturing Chad, spawning Timmies as a result. Once they were dealt with, this dynamic acquiesced back to their natural state of cooperative subversion to undermine Stacy which progressed to petty squabbles involving catty antics over Chad and only the best Timmies. This is how we ended up with the Gynocracy you see today, despite short lived reversals to this overall trend.
Anonymous No.83074345 [Report] >>83075155
>>83072545
Nah they are great. My gf cooked me a ham & mushroom cheese omelette this morning and cuddled with me. Your opinion is invalid.
Anonymous No.83074547 [Report]
>>83070117
That's only indicative of their lack of intelligence.
Anonymous No.83074587 [Report]
>>83070105
if there is one thing western liberal democracy is good at its taming people,the most radical religious extremists you have are white fundi christians all shitskins westernize the second the hit the ground,you just dont have the real deal ones no matter how much you fearmonger about them.
Anonymous No.83074590 [Report]
>>83070264
Being strong means pretty much nothing if the parasite has pretty much taken control of the host. Once that happens, even the tiny, weak parasite is strong than the big monster.
Anonymous No.83074641 [Report]
>>83070180
Yup, no idea where the lie women couldn't work came from, it was so hard for the feds to keep typhoid mary unemployed that they literally had to lock her up for the rest of her life. Its just now women are peer pressured to work to the point pretty much every easy low skill job is oversaturated and men get pushed out into the dangerous and grueling stuff almost exclusively.
Anonymous No.83074658 [Report]
>>83072185
that's the point. Op started with a false premise so his thread would get more attention. It is bait 101
Anonymous No.83074684 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
Yeah, I am mad for those reasons ngl. But it's ok, women they don't want to marry and have kids are selecting themselves out existence. The people that will remain are those that DO want a family/children, again shifting the culture to the right. A vicious cycle. Let women choose
Anonymous No.83074696 [Report]
>>83070092 (OP)
>short ones
>it's your personality man. you are short in spirit
kek
Anonymous No.83074751 [Report]
>>83070180
true, they're basically rewriting history
Anonymous No.83075155 [Report]
>>83074345
Your girlfriend is a whore, but you probably is a low value man anyway, so you deserve each other
Anonymous No.83075741 [Report] >>83075782 >>83075791
Good news: OP made this same thread on /pol/ and got banned for it.
Anonymous No.83075782 [Report] >>83076208
>>83075741
>/r9k/ has worse moderation than /pol/
Grim
Anonymous No.83075783 [Report]
>>83070283
Albert Einstein's first wife was his Marie Curie. Somewhere between her and Curie is the middle ground of female soundingboards for male genius (because you can't be a soundingboard for a Curie or an Einstein without being very smart yourself).

Emmy Noether mogs the shit out of all these bitches, male or female, of course.
Anonymous No.83075791 [Report]
>>83075741
Incorrect. I am OP and not banned. Someone else made the thread right after me. I thought it was pretty funny
Anonymous No.83076051 [Report]
>>83070219
>annecdotal evidence to disprove general trend
typical foid "reasoning"
Anonymous No.83076175 [Report]
Women ought to be killed at birth.
Anonymous No.83076208 [Report]
>>83075782
The robot does it all for us chud.
This was the vision.