>>33367810
I mean I do feel you but I guess it just boils down that you are trying to rationally understand something that is at most rationalized - people like it because it feels good for them.

I am not into playing submissive but I can enjoy some stuff plenty of people would find gross (snowballing comes to mind) and if they'd ask me if I don't find it gross, it would be like... yes, but in a good way? Like nice and dirty? Or, in everyday life I am (and used to be much more still) a fairly self-conscious person, but I loooove someone making me feel flustered and a little embarrassed in bed. I guess especially because it is the one setting where I can feel both - I feel shame and I feel accepted and cherished simultaneously. I think it's like that for a lot of people. Like the bad feeling being incorporated in their bliss feels like they have won out over their (in this case) shame?

Similarly many people have a "good pain" category in sex... It is generally a space where a lot of feelings or themes that are not usually positive, are suddenly enjoyed still.