Anonymous
10/17/2025, 6:34:30 PM
No.150879009
>>150878577
>There is no capitalism without the state
There definitely is capitalism without the state. Capitalism is a system of voluntary exchange without coercion or state privilege. What you're doing is conflating crony capitalism with laissez-faire capitalism. The state is not a neutral enforcer but a coercive institution that distorts markets by privileging certain actors.
>capital attracts more capital
In a truly free market, monopolies are economically unsustainable due to entrepreneurial innovation, consumer preference shifts, and competition. The only way to sustain a monopoly is through coercive exclusion, which requires state power.
>only through state intervention can monopolies be broken up
The state itself is a monopoly of force, it uses its power to pick winners and losers, distort capital allocation, and socialize losses. Asking the state to break up monopolies is like asking an arsonist to fight fires.
>infinite growth mindset
Growth is a byproduct of voluntary saving, investment, and consumer satisfaction. Corporations grow only insofar as they serve consumers better than rivals. There is no "imperative" to grow, only the imperative to avoid losses. The real driver of artificial, unsustainable growth is state-induced credit expansion (via central banking), not private enterprise.
>democratic socialism
Worker-owned firms still operate within a framework of scarcity and competition. There is no magical altruism in worker cooperatives, they still seek profit, market share, and survival. Worker co-ops are just as likely to lobby for protectionist policies, subsidies, or barriers to entry as corporations. The structure of ownership does not eliminate the incentive to use state power for advantage. Only in a pure private property order, where all resources are owned and disputes resolved through voluntary arbitration, can genuine competition flourish.
>There is no capitalism without the state
There definitely is capitalism without the state. Capitalism is a system of voluntary exchange without coercion or state privilege. What you're doing is conflating crony capitalism with laissez-faire capitalism. The state is not a neutral enforcer but a coercive institution that distorts markets by privileging certain actors.
>capital attracts more capital
In a truly free market, monopolies are economically unsustainable due to entrepreneurial innovation, consumer preference shifts, and competition. The only way to sustain a monopoly is through coercive exclusion, which requires state power.
>only through state intervention can monopolies be broken up
The state itself is a monopoly of force, it uses its power to pick winners and losers, distort capital allocation, and socialize losses. Asking the state to break up monopolies is like asking an arsonist to fight fires.
>infinite growth mindset
Growth is a byproduct of voluntary saving, investment, and consumer satisfaction. Corporations grow only insofar as they serve consumers better than rivals. There is no "imperative" to grow, only the imperative to avoid losses. The real driver of artificial, unsustainable growth is state-induced credit expansion (via central banking), not private enterprise.
>democratic socialism
Worker-owned firms still operate within a framework of scarcity and competition. There is no magical altruism in worker cooperatives, they still seek profit, market share, and survival. Worker co-ops are just as likely to lobby for protectionist policies, subsidies, or barriers to entry as corporations. The structure of ownership does not eliminate the incentive to use state power for advantage. Only in a pure private property order, where all resources are owned and disputes resolved through voluntary arbitration, can genuine competition flourish.