Anonymous
10/18/2025, 4:52:02 AM
No.150887526
>>150879973
>>150887492
>capitalism and states
Capitalism has only existed with state backing. Without it, there is no means to defend oligarchic property relations and people will simply take or manufacture what they need. If there's no state nothing stops people from abandoning your "private" workplaces in favor of whatever they prefer. Without the state there's no proper currency to finance and organize the whole affair.
Art, science, philosophy, these are human things that predate the state by thousands of years. We never even conceived of state power by the time we were already painting beautifully shaded pieces of art on cave walls, domesticating animals and plants to better enable our survival and forming unique cultures and languages. That requires no state, its human nature.
>money as coercion
Forget your book offer, look up what private equity firms do and get away with. Its not even uncommon for them to purchase companies with money they take out on loan, then place the burden of that loan ON THE PURCHASED COMPANY while stripping it for parts. Shameful, and while its a major part of our so called economy under capitalism, its just one of many coercive situations brought about by capitalism.
>Yes they do, because unsustainable businesses fail
No, they get bailed out lol. You're living in lalaland friend. The capitalists are almost always just fine, the Theranos scammer is doing just fine thank you for asking. Once you have enough money its almost impossible to fuck it up. Many unsustainable businesses exist just fine thanks to government subsidy.
In fact every corporation that does not pay a living wage is unsustainable without government intervention to pick up the slack. The majority if not outright entirety of the capitalist model is unsustainable and has been grinding itself into lower rates of profits ballooned temporarily by ever shrinking & bursting bubbles.
>>150879691
No, if everyone was that weak we'd be
extinct.
>>150887492
>capitalism and states
Capitalism has only existed with state backing. Without it, there is no means to defend oligarchic property relations and people will simply take or manufacture what they need. If there's no state nothing stops people from abandoning your "private" workplaces in favor of whatever they prefer. Without the state there's no proper currency to finance and organize the whole affair.
Art, science, philosophy, these are human things that predate the state by thousands of years. We never even conceived of state power by the time we were already painting beautifully shaded pieces of art on cave walls, domesticating animals and plants to better enable our survival and forming unique cultures and languages. That requires no state, its human nature.
>money as coercion
Forget your book offer, look up what private equity firms do and get away with. Its not even uncommon for them to purchase companies with money they take out on loan, then place the burden of that loan ON THE PURCHASED COMPANY while stripping it for parts. Shameful, and while its a major part of our so called economy under capitalism, its just one of many coercive situations brought about by capitalism.
>Yes they do, because unsustainable businesses fail
No, they get bailed out lol. You're living in lalaland friend. The capitalists are almost always just fine, the Theranos scammer is doing just fine thank you for asking. Once you have enough money its almost impossible to fuck it up. Many unsustainable businesses exist just fine thanks to government subsidy.
In fact every corporation that does not pay a living wage is unsustainable without government intervention to pick up the slack. The majority if not outright entirety of the capitalist model is unsustainable and has been grinding itself into lower rates of profits ballooned temporarily by ever shrinking & bursting bubbles.
>>150879691
No, if everyone was that weak we'd be
extinct.