Anonymous
10/18/2025, 7:05:56 AM
No.150888921
>>150887526
>Capitalism has only existed with state backing
You are too focused on the idea that capitalism NEEDS the state that you're unable to imagine how capitalism can function without it, even with me explaining it to you.
>people will simply take or manufacture what they need
Taking someone else's justly acquired property is aggression, you do not need a state to determine if what you own is actually yours. Communities would defend property through private security, mutual defense pacts, and reputation-based arbitration.
>nothing stops people from abandoning your "private" workplaces
Nothing stops them from continuing work either.
>Without the state there's no proper currency
Money emerges spontaneously from barter. Gold, silver, salt, cattle, hell even bitcoin have all functioned as money without state creation. The state monopolizes and debases money (via central banking), causing inflation, boom-bust cycles, and wealth extraction.
>human nature
Yes, these are products of voluntary human cooperation, like capitalism. You do not need the state to apply value to something, that is something innate in humans.
>private equity firms
Again, it's not capitalism but state-enabled financial predation. What you just described is state-created loopholes. In a free market, your reputation matters a whole lot more since you can't fall back on the state to bail you out. People will see you're untrustworthy and go to someone better.
>bailed out
You've just described socialism for the rich. Bailouts, subsidies, and regulatory capture are socialist mechanisms, they involve forced redistribution from taxpayers to politically connected firms.
>Theranos
The state's justice system is slow, politicized, and lenient to elites. In a stateless order, fraud would be treated as theft, punishable by restitution, ostracism, or private enforcement. No plea deals, parole, or PR teams.
>Capitalism has only existed with state backing
You are too focused on the idea that capitalism NEEDS the state that you're unable to imagine how capitalism can function without it, even with me explaining it to you.
>people will simply take or manufacture what they need
Taking someone else's justly acquired property is aggression, you do not need a state to determine if what you own is actually yours. Communities would defend property through private security, mutual defense pacts, and reputation-based arbitration.
>nothing stops people from abandoning your "private" workplaces
Nothing stops them from continuing work either.
>Without the state there's no proper currency
Money emerges spontaneously from barter. Gold, silver, salt, cattle, hell even bitcoin have all functioned as money without state creation. The state monopolizes and debases money (via central banking), causing inflation, boom-bust cycles, and wealth extraction.
>human nature
Yes, these are products of voluntary human cooperation, like capitalism. You do not need the state to apply value to something, that is something innate in humans.
>private equity firms
Again, it's not capitalism but state-enabled financial predation. What you just described is state-created loopholes. In a free market, your reputation matters a whole lot more since you can't fall back on the state to bail you out. People will see you're untrustworthy and go to someone better.
>bailed out
You've just described socialism for the rich. Bailouts, subsidies, and regulatory capture are socialist mechanisms, they involve forced redistribution from taxpayers to politically connected firms.
>Theranos
The state's justice system is slow, politicized, and lenient to elites. In a stateless order, fraud would be treated as theft, punishable by restitution, ostracism, or private enforcement. No plea deals, parole, or PR teams.