Anonymous
10/18/2025, 6:20:05 PM
No.150893237
>>150888841
Socialism can only be democratic imho, but democratic socialism certainly is at any rate. The whole idea is workers having a direct democracy and ownership of their workplace together prevent oligarchs from sabotaging our democratic state.
>>150888921
The reason you can only "imagine" capitalism without a state instead of finding it anywhere is because it couldn't exist. Its an act of fantasy. Capitalism has only ever existed under state coercion, some of the first markings of the capitalist model were enclosure acts that privatized once commonly held pastures.
>Socialism for the rich
Is a meaningless deflection desu, its capitalism pure and simple. Socialism would be if a business had to offer the right of first purchase to it's staff before being sold to anyone else, preferably with generously subsidized federal loans to finance the transfer. If we're bailing out a company, we should own that company. Democratic socialism is common sense applied to market economics. >>150891019
>Fucking Hitler was more reasonable regarding that shit that ultra dogmatic economic theorists of today with the incredible simple policies of
You've been watching too many memes. The term privatization was literally coined to describe hitlers policy of selling off public goods to corporate allies. Mussolini accurately described fascism as "corporatism", emphasizing the idea of running the state like a business. The economies of fascist countries are not self sufficient, they require constant extraction and war or else some link to civilized nations to trade with them. The fantasy of "self sufficiency" (as though our ancestors didn't love to trade for exciting foreign goods and show off their artisinal skills) is propaganda, it's something they day to justify privatizing everything and promoting corporate profits.
If you want sensible economics you want Vic Berger or Zohran Mamdani. Hitler wasn't fit to wipe my ass.
Socialism can only be democratic imho, but democratic socialism certainly is at any rate. The whole idea is workers having a direct democracy and ownership of their workplace together prevent oligarchs from sabotaging our democratic state.
>>150888921
The reason you can only "imagine" capitalism without a state instead of finding it anywhere is because it couldn't exist. Its an act of fantasy. Capitalism has only ever existed under state coercion, some of the first markings of the capitalist model were enclosure acts that privatized once commonly held pastures.
>Socialism for the rich
Is a meaningless deflection desu, its capitalism pure and simple. Socialism would be if a business had to offer the right of first purchase to it's staff before being sold to anyone else, preferably with generously subsidized federal loans to finance the transfer. If we're bailing out a company, we should own that company. Democratic socialism is common sense applied to market economics. >>150891019
>Fucking Hitler was more reasonable regarding that shit that ultra dogmatic economic theorists of today with the incredible simple policies of
You've been watching too many memes. The term privatization was literally coined to describe hitlers policy of selling off public goods to corporate allies. Mussolini accurately described fascism as "corporatism", emphasizing the idea of running the state like a business. The economies of fascist countries are not self sufficient, they require constant extraction and war or else some link to civilized nations to trade with them. The fantasy of "self sufficiency" (as though our ancestors didn't love to trade for exciting foreign goods and show off their artisinal skills) is propaganda, it's something they day to justify privatizing everything and promoting corporate profits.
If you want sensible economics you want Vic Berger or Zohran Mamdani. Hitler wasn't fit to wipe my ass.