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You've buried the lead. If you genuinely want to meaningfully argue with socialists you need to ditch most of your shit, which assumes a framework socialists don't share, and address your actual top-level disagreement first thus:
>Resources are limited, only private property and profit/loss provides a rational feedback mechanism to allocate them.
This isn't - I'm genuinely not sure if you're aware - either the prevailing historical opinion or conventional wisdom. If you believe it, and want to convince someone else of it, you'll want to marshal an actual positive argument for it.