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Lisp is usually just 'cl', otherwise you say 'a lisp', but that is a nonsense because they're all totally different languages. Haskell is closer to clojure than lisp is. Chicken and racket have effectively nothing in common, not even the module system or library ecosystem, etc.
I agree that r5rs is better designed than lisp, but that is non sequitur. The topic was that non-mainstream languages don't have as good tooling as languages like js, python or c. Lisp has infitely better tooling than anything still alive at all. I don't know another lisp with anywhere near as good tooling, but racket has better tooling than python and js, and clojure has the same tooling as java, all of which totally defeats the argument.