Anonymous
9/8/2025, 2:26:54 AM
No.214637974
9/8/2025, 2:26:54 AM
No.214637974
>>214637414
A big bunch of Finns are Karelians - Lutheran Karelians. Karelians are the tribe that got split along the religious line. Orthodox Karelians are not Finns but they can easily become Finns if they convert.
The friendly relations between Lutherans and Orthodoxes in Finland have been a historical anomaly during the era when we had militant atheist Bolshevism next door. They might end and if they do Orthodoxes will again just be considered Russians.
>>214637568
The border region was unusual because the Lutheran side had preserved the language very well because the religion demanded reading the Bible in native tongue while Lutheranism was totally destructive of pagan culture. The Orthodox side had retained more of the pagan culture but most Orthodox Finnic tribes lost their language. In the border region you had these tendencies side by side so the language preservation of Lutheranism and culture preservation of Orthodoxy combined.
It's a cool niche thing but in the end pagan stuff is stupid illiterate magical thinking and there's a reason it disappeared from everywhere except the hillbilly remote borderland. We lost to the Swedes and Russians because we failed to move on from pagan crap while they picked up literate religion and Greco-Roman advancements with it.
"The evil Swedes destroyed our culture and now we can't believe that a duck egg gave birth to the world anymore!" If you want to believe that the world came out of a duck egg you can still do that in Finland and no Swedish crusader death squad is going to show up to stop you. But no one does it because it was honestly all pretty stupid and primitive.
A big bunch of Finns are Karelians - Lutheran Karelians. Karelians are the tribe that got split along the religious line. Orthodox Karelians are not Finns but they can easily become Finns if they convert.
The friendly relations between Lutherans and Orthodoxes in Finland have been a historical anomaly during the era when we had militant atheist Bolshevism next door. They might end and if they do Orthodoxes will again just be considered Russians.
>>214637568
The border region was unusual because the Lutheran side had preserved the language very well because the religion demanded reading the Bible in native tongue while Lutheranism was totally destructive of pagan culture. The Orthodox side had retained more of the pagan culture but most Orthodox Finnic tribes lost their language. In the border region you had these tendencies side by side so the language preservation of Lutheranism and culture preservation of Orthodoxy combined.
It's a cool niche thing but in the end pagan stuff is stupid illiterate magical thinking and there's a reason it disappeared from everywhere except the hillbilly remote borderland. We lost to the Swedes and Russians because we failed to move on from pagan crap while they picked up literate religion and Greco-Roman advancements with it.
"The evil Swedes destroyed our culture and now we can't believe that a duck egg gave birth to the world anymore!" If you want to believe that the world came out of a duck egg you can still do that in Finland and no Swedish crusader death squad is going to show up to stop you. But no one does it because it was honestly all pretty stupid and primitive.