Anonymous
10/10/2025, 10:33:39 PM
No.64381324
>>64379835
>do you have the skills, the patience and the time to make it? will it be viable compared to 3d printing resin casings?
Duh.
>but the price is the question
Currently it's cheaper to buy mass produced brass... because it's still available. Once it isn't, mass produced brass won't be cheaper. Kinda obvious, I hope.
>people had to somehow make the machinery for the factories, so it's possible but what if they had to use OTHER industrial machinery to make the brass press components? you're gonna build the precursor machinery too?
That's why I mentioned already having some 4130 steel. It's stupid easy to heat treat. Don't even need a temperature controlled kiln, approximate temperatures work good enough. A 20 ton press (which you already have if you do bearing work on your car) has enough pressure for a progressive die.
>the video you shown me had 3+ different man-sized presses
Wasn't me but that's why I specified a progressive die. They only need to be man sized if you want a fuckton per hour like they do. Otherwise, it's a chunk of hardened steel with specific holes drilled through it, a few hardened steel rods with specific diameters that attach to your press, and your press. That's what you need.
>we are talking about viability, it's absolutely not viable to make it at home
but my shed has tools. I've already mentioned that.
>get a reality check and tell me the estimate of time it will take for you to make a brass forming setup to make good enough casings?
It'll take longer to get a workable ratio for brass. If ammunition is regulated, enforcement officers will probably check out people buying sheets of brass. Need to get a good ratio based on weight. Probably need to sort pennies by year and strip some wire.
To make the initial tube, one afternoon of drilling and heat treating. Need to remember to make the die for the primer cup on the progressive die to save space. The shaping tools for the shoulder, extractor, and primer pocket? Maybe 2 days.
>do you have the skills, the patience and the time to make it? will it be viable compared to 3d printing resin casings?
Duh.
>but the price is the question
Currently it's cheaper to buy mass produced brass... because it's still available. Once it isn't, mass produced brass won't be cheaper. Kinda obvious, I hope.
>people had to somehow make the machinery for the factories, so it's possible but what if they had to use OTHER industrial machinery to make the brass press components? you're gonna build the precursor machinery too?
That's why I mentioned already having some 4130 steel. It's stupid easy to heat treat. Don't even need a temperature controlled kiln, approximate temperatures work good enough. A 20 ton press (which you already have if you do bearing work on your car) has enough pressure for a progressive die.
>the video you shown me had 3+ different man-sized presses
Wasn't me but that's why I specified a progressive die. They only need to be man sized if you want a fuckton per hour like they do. Otherwise, it's a chunk of hardened steel with specific holes drilled through it, a few hardened steel rods with specific diameters that attach to your press, and your press. That's what you need.
>we are talking about viability, it's absolutely not viable to make it at home
but my shed has tools. I've already mentioned that.
>get a reality check and tell me the estimate of time it will take for you to make a brass forming setup to make good enough casings?
It'll take longer to get a workable ratio for brass. If ammunition is regulated, enforcement officers will probably check out people buying sheets of brass. Need to get a good ratio based on weight. Probably need to sort pennies by year and strip some wire.
To make the initial tube, one afternoon of drilling and heat treating. Need to remember to make the die for the primer cup on the progressive die to save space. The shaping tools for the shoulder, extractor, and primer pocket? Maybe 2 days.