Anonymous
10/11/2025, 1:55:49 PM
No.41321036
>>41320971
I think its self evident as a routine, normalized identity. Identifying as bi is no less deviant or ego driven than identifying as gay.
Its one of the more comical concepts because it invites argument, especially among those who consider all sexual interest profiles to have some medical basis. It makes quantifying any other population realisically impossible.
To straights, being with another male makes you gay. Yet a gay experimenting with a woman does not make him straight or bi. But a woman experimenting with a woman is called bi or lesbian interchangeably, much to the frustration of women who identify as lesbian, often after a life with men.
Moreover, 'deviant' isnt an identity. Nor is it a 'type' of person, and you have to define what deviance means to others. To many, any sodomy between straights is deviant. To many straights, it is not. Also, deviant behavior does not necessarily make one commited to the behavior, and so many experiment with some deviancy, by some definiton, that the deviants make up the majority, if that makes them deviant. So then you have to ask, what is the norm if everyone has deviated.
When I use the term deviant, I am simply referring to biology as the standard; non procreative "sexual" behavior. Its not a moral judgment. But thats what people hear. People understandably, as social creatures, do not want to be called or thought of as abnormal. And yet a society needs some concept of normal or some standard to function and have order. Which is why ideals are not reality. The reality of human society is actually quite horrific, even if not especially sexually, when you start discussing surgeries like abortion and SRS.
So its important to establish a frame of reference when invoking terms like deviance or abnormalities. Its our society's eternal moving goal post. Humanity forever trying to reconcile social morality with the actuality of how a majority of them behave in private (or not).
I think its self evident as a routine, normalized identity. Identifying as bi is no less deviant or ego driven than identifying as gay.
Its one of the more comical concepts because it invites argument, especially among those who consider all sexual interest profiles to have some medical basis. It makes quantifying any other population realisically impossible.
To straights, being with another male makes you gay. Yet a gay experimenting with a woman does not make him straight or bi. But a woman experimenting with a woman is called bi or lesbian interchangeably, much to the frustration of women who identify as lesbian, often after a life with men.
Moreover, 'deviant' isnt an identity. Nor is it a 'type' of person, and you have to define what deviance means to others. To many, any sodomy between straights is deviant. To many straights, it is not. Also, deviant behavior does not necessarily make one commited to the behavior, and so many experiment with some deviancy, by some definiton, that the deviants make up the majority, if that makes them deviant. So then you have to ask, what is the norm if everyone has deviated.
When I use the term deviant, I am simply referring to biology as the standard; non procreative "sexual" behavior. Its not a moral judgment. But thats what people hear. People understandably, as social creatures, do not want to be called or thought of as abnormal. And yet a society needs some concept of normal or some standard to function and have order. Which is why ideals are not reality. The reality of human society is actually quite horrific, even if not especially sexually, when you start discussing surgeries like abortion and SRS.
So its important to establish a frame of reference when invoking terms like deviance or abnormalities. Its our society's eternal moving goal post. Humanity forever trying to reconcile social morality with the actuality of how a majority of them behave in private (or not).