>>82261209

>nah, shit being expensive tanks the birthrate
most people want kids, but don't feel like they can afford them

People have been poor for a long time. Most people throughout history have been poor, yet they had kids. This argument does not hold up with even a little bit of scrutiny.

>shit being expensive affects conservatives too, and if by "subjugating women" you mean making them be housewives, that's gonna make affording children even harder

Having women in the workforce drives down the value of labor. It also takes away jobs from men. This double whammy imposes hardship on everyone because men can't be the single-income breadwinner once the economy adjusts to a two-income model and it long since has, and women are unhappy because they want to date a man who makes more money than they do even though their feminist brain conflictingly demands that they be able to have a job and make an equal amount for the same job too.

>a lot of the people in those countries have historically had less than people in the west, and so they are more willing to have children in worse economic conditions

And people don't have less here in the West?