>>82784316
>i also still want a bullet in my head despite having tried almost everything at this point
I know, from previous conversation. That's why I said I don't mean to insinuate.
>and what if they do?
Then they should live! Simple. There are miserable lives who are still worth living out there.
>how does that change their circumstance?
As I said, in case of permanent suffering, it is valid to give up. It is sensible and maybe advisable to kys then. But as I said, you can off yourself for whatever reason you wish, as is your right as a free indipendent person *of sound mind*.
>but it dies regardless
That is morbid and unfounded or grounded in reality.
>the person in the middle of the smoke sees nothing but smoke
That's why I said they're stubborn. Yer smoking yourself! Stop that! See reason, please.
>you need to learn to accept that not everyone gets a happy ending. real life isn't kind nor fair.
I am aware, and it should've been appearent from my previous posts. But help and hope are the first messures I will use when dealing with a troubled person. It'll take a lot of trial and error for me to authorize self distruction as a method of action. Unless the person is serious about ending it, after thinking it through enough, and is of sound mind (i.e., not in smoke); then it would take one honest conversation to convince me of the validity of the option.