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>but honey is a grey area. grey areas dont make it morally okay to kill pigs for bacon.
Okay, but it does make it okay, even good, to not be a vegan. Honey eaters are not vegans.
>thats not true, anon! beans and lentils are just as nutritious
They aren't. They lack a lot of micronutrients such as that found in sardines, and their protiens aren't high quality and need to be consumed with other protiens to make full ones. This also didn't adress how lentils tear up my father's guts when eggs don't.
>very cheap and are less straining on the farming and food distribution systems!
Even if this is true, being vegan isn't going to fix that. Society is apready set up with businesses and infastructures for farming meat. They're going to find a demand.
>its kind of ironic you say that, because soon enough with ai, it will take over the world and humans wont have any power.
AI is both a reflection of humanity and a bubble. It wouldn't exist or be nearly as powerful without US HUMANS to train on and it's importance and use is being pushed HARD right now. It's not profitable or sustainable.
>thats actually not true. over enough time it does make a difference, it just takes enough time. its a supply and demand situation
Veganism is still the slowest most inefficient way possible to make change. The guy is talking about how over the course of your LIFETIME sometimes maybe your choice to not BUY(not eat) meat will reduce the percieved demand and thus supply of meat. You're putting the majority of the blame on people's personal choices, when you, hypocrite that you are, don't donate to orgainzations that actually work to disrupt the meat industry. Donating 200 dollars and eating meat all year is probably more efficient. You're playing into the meat inustry's hands by allowing them to make it "your" responsibility when they're the ones doing all the crazy abuse to animals and running the show.