>>83081536
You're going further downstream. You're moving further and further away from the point I am making without refuting it.
I'm not refuting the existence or belief in these virtues. I'm merely pointing to the means by which they were determined to be virtues.
>>83081539
No, because I'm not a stoic and don't view my emotions or investments to be hinderances.
I also don't think they're retarded, just uninformed. Lacking the critical information to accurately assess what is being said in its totality.

I think stoicism is stupid. It's for people who find their own nature to be repulsive, and something to be replaced with mechanical logic, which they deem to be superior to the "irrational" whims of feelings.
Stoicism is one sided. Unbalanced. Therefore sinful. Sinful in its own terms. Stupid. Illogical. Irrational.