>>16821817
>>16821860
why are you laughing
he is correct
programming does not require mathematics
programming IS mathematics

jokes aside yeah if you are a webshitter using frameworks and libraries where smarter people than you took care of the hard stuff, yeah you don't need mathematics
and the majority of programmers do fall in this category

but the elites who build the stuff everyone else uses do need mathematics and OP talked about competitive programming where yes you do need mathematics