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Jack straight up tells you that his opinion on humans is the same as the opinion humans have on cattle, he doesn't go slaughtering them for fun but he doesn't mind killing them if they get in the way. Also Jack killed all of Elizabeth Dane's crew, he's an inhuman monster and he's IIRC only about 300 years old
Strauss is an actual teacher in Tremere pyramid so he's much much more formal to you