Anonymous
11/8/2025, 9:53:16 AM
No.96938529
>>96938309
>I really can't see the Cappadocians forgiving the Giovanni
A seemingly common complaint that is addressed by the very FIRST opening fiction of the Hecata's sourcebook, Cult of the Blood Gods. I detest V5, but I like the Hecata as a concept, as I've preferred the Harbingers/Cappadocians over the Giovanni wank of previous editions. But to address your issue. It was explained that the Harbingers managed to convince the younger Giovanni, those who were Embraced LONG after the original pogrom against the Cappadocians, to join up with them. Why would the younger Giovanni be willing to do this, you ask? Because, like the issue among the Ventrue and Tremere, immortality doesn't really make way for upward mobility. Can't really move up when the positions rarely open up. So they get to talking. The Harbingers would teach the younger Giovanni some secrets of the trade their Elders refused to, and also help them get rid of the Elders of the family, those who really bear the grudge of the Harbingers, and ike you mentioned, actually took part in the pogrom. With the old guard out the way, the younger Giovanni would welcome the Harbingers back to the family, so to speak. Hence the Family Reunion.
>It would take the most gracious Elder imaginable to bury a grudge like that even for the vampires who were only sired long after this betrayal, let alone the ones who took part
Here's the thing, each member of the family DOES have a vendetta. Most of the lore sheets explicitly acknowledge this fact. They aren't just "one big happy family, all's forgiven" as some mouth-breathers make them out to be. They've all just come to agreement that the appearance of a unifed front would beneficial to all of them. They're all still backstabbing and avenging old nad new grudges, but they just try to "keep it in the family". V5 has many mistakes. The Hecata are not one of them.
>I really can't see the Cappadocians forgiving the Giovanni
A seemingly common complaint that is addressed by the very FIRST opening fiction of the Hecata's sourcebook, Cult of the Blood Gods. I detest V5, but I like the Hecata as a concept, as I've preferred the Harbingers/Cappadocians over the Giovanni wank of previous editions. But to address your issue. It was explained that the Harbingers managed to convince the younger Giovanni, those who were Embraced LONG after the original pogrom against the Cappadocians, to join up with them. Why would the younger Giovanni be willing to do this, you ask? Because, like the issue among the Ventrue and Tremere, immortality doesn't really make way for upward mobility. Can't really move up when the positions rarely open up. So they get to talking. The Harbingers would teach the younger Giovanni some secrets of the trade their Elders refused to, and also help them get rid of the Elders of the family, those who really bear the grudge of the Harbingers, and ike you mentioned, actually took part in the pogrom. With the old guard out the way, the younger Giovanni would welcome the Harbingers back to the family, so to speak. Hence the Family Reunion.
>It would take the most gracious Elder imaginable to bury a grudge like that even for the vampires who were only sired long after this betrayal, let alone the ones who took part
Here's the thing, each member of the family DOES have a vendetta. Most of the lore sheets explicitly acknowledge this fact. They aren't just "one big happy family, all's forgiven" as some mouth-breathers make them out to be. They've all just come to agreement that the appearance of a unifed front would beneficial to all of them. They're all still backstabbing and avenging old nad new grudges, but they just try to "keep it in the family". V5 has many mistakes. The Hecata are not one of them.