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sometime after the end of shadowbringers but before endwalker
the two big wow world first guilds made teams to try xiv raiding because their game was in a content drought. The leader of liquid said it would be a quick thing, expected to clear all 12 eden savage fights in a weekend. In reality it took them several months and had to be coached by a high end xiv player to finish.
the other team went in a bit more carefully and did a lot better because they wanted to learn not just show off how good they were