Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:24:47 AM
No.528104884
>>528103135
>Very few weapons can spam and tear through hordes of crushers and bulwarks with so much damage, stagger and suppression
It two shot crushers at best with the meta talent tree everyone uses while not penetrating them, and fuck no it doesn't delete hordes of bulwarks like the flamers, nothing else does.
>>528103264
>with charged shots not being dogshit compared to snap shots.
Charged shots have always been shit in a vacuum even disregarding the primary fire, why bother with heat and venting and risk blowing up when a revolver will end up having the same amount of effective ammo and just as much reload downtime with all the venting plasma does? Plasma only ever has value because of the primary being good. The leaked nerf halves plasma's effective ammo pool if not more, and it has around 100 basic shots from full ammo.
I agree that the primary fire overshadows the charge, but they couldn't even be bothered to do an interesting nerf and give both fire modes their own unique purpose, instead it won't even one shot a fucking flamer or elite gunner and you'll be using twice as much ammo if you charge your shots frame perfectly, up to three times in a real game.
>outperforms all other guns by huge margin
This is only true if you stay in vet's arsenal. Flamer and flame staff may not kill instantly but they both have FAR more damage potential for the same or less ammo consumption.
>barely ever needs to be reloaded
It needs to vent every two shots after high heat, just like a staff psyker, but you still chew ammo.
>>528104169
>the plasma gun is the ONLY gun that lets him do this with complete consistency
>[bolter] can still [...] melt armor
Both of these couldn't be more wrong. Revolver exists, there are many other guns that can kill specials well too. Bolter sucks at carapace damage without a dedicated exec stance build, no the brittleness perk sucks. You dump an entire mag and you killed three at best, and this is in auric and not havoc with bloated HP.
>Very few weapons can spam and tear through hordes of crushers and bulwarks with so much damage, stagger and suppression
It two shot crushers at best with the meta talent tree everyone uses while not penetrating them, and fuck no it doesn't delete hordes of bulwarks like the flamers, nothing else does.
>>528103264
>with charged shots not being dogshit compared to snap shots.
Charged shots have always been shit in a vacuum even disregarding the primary fire, why bother with heat and venting and risk blowing up when a revolver will end up having the same amount of effective ammo and just as much reload downtime with all the venting plasma does? Plasma only ever has value because of the primary being good. The leaked nerf halves plasma's effective ammo pool if not more, and it has around 100 basic shots from full ammo.
I agree that the primary fire overshadows the charge, but they couldn't even be bothered to do an interesting nerf and give both fire modes their own unique purpose, instead it won't even one shot a fucking flamer or elite gunner and you'll be using twice as much ammo if you charge your shots frame perfectly, up to three times in a real game.
>outperforms all other guns by huge margin
This is only true if you stay in vet's arsenal. Flamer and flame staff may not kill instantly but they both have FAR more damage potential for the same or less ammo consumption.
>barely ever needs to be reloaded
It needs to vent every two shots after high heat, just like a staff psyker, but you still chew ammo.
>>528104169
>the plasma gun is the ONLY gun that lets him do this with complete consistency
>[bolter] can still [...] melt armor
Both of these couldn't be more wrong. Revolver exists, there are many other guns that can kill specials well too. Bolter sucks at carapace damage without a dedicated exec stance build, no the brittleness perk sucks. You dump an entire mag and you killed three at best, and this is in auric and not havoc with bloated HP.