I have been having recurring dreams about being raped this whole week

you should talk to a medicine person or shaman and ask what it means

sorry ur dealing wiht that
who is r*ping u in ur dreams

>>12337549
shaman in training here, i think anon is either A. processing trauma, B. having wet dreams, C. lurked too much on the internet and now has anxiety over things that probably wont happen

>>12337560
oooh, what spiritual tradition are you a shaman for?

>>12337562
psycolin therapy

>>12337566
there are shamans for that?

>>12337571
of course! it is not advised to take shrooms all by yourself, you need someone with you to keep the flow going and help you figure out the difference between hallucinations, inner-thoughts, and reality..
in some countries (mostly the ones where it's illegal) shamans are the only way of acquiring shrooms

>>12337580
i guess that makes sense like how people can get peyote or ayahuasca from medicine people. just when you apply the word 'therapy' to that it stops sounding like a spiritual practice and sounds more like a science. then again i guess 'shaman' doesn't have to refer to someone associated with a spiritual practice, idk. i should learn more about different kinds of shamans and medicine people, i'm only kind of familiar with the people in my area

>>12337585
well "spirituality" can still be scientific.. shamans traditionally use real world science in their line of work..
the same is true for "witchcraft" during the salem trial period (the women who got hung did not perform "black magic" they just invented herb-based medicine, going against the patriarch)
even voodoo isn't exactly magic or spiritual, rather a deep understanding of which chemical has which effect on the body (zombification is often achieved through a shaman giving you a type of fish with certain ingredients on it that essentially get you dazed and suggestive to commands, while your body rots and then you die) but i think voodoo should be illegal

>>12337589
sure the medicines given to you by a medicine person all have effects that can be explained scientifically like a lot of traditional medicines are anti-microbial or anti-inflammatory, but i don't see the value in applying the term 'scientific' to them. i guess i can't explain why without invoking a spiritual belief that we probably don't share, but still

>>12337597
the thing is, once you stop thinking of "spirituality" as mystical, and more think of it as basic understanding of nature and energy, science can easily be applied
you can say "i'm enlightened and one with the earth" or you can say "i'm high" both mean the same thing, but we don't treat it like that (partially due to politics, but also due to religion and cultural history)
any spiritual tribe uses substances and teas, but do you ever stop to wonder what these substances are? or have you ever stopped to ask what does it mean to be "high"
heck, even crazier, you can actually get high without using any form of drugs.. Buddha for example reached enlightenment by meditating underneath a tree on a hot sunny day (probably dehydrated af) with his thoughts fully isolated from the material world.. anyone could get high from doing that..

>>12337610
that's not to say that spirituality is false or delusional "hehe kek you're not enlightened you're just high"
rather, we have to re-evaluate what it means to be "high"
there is a reason why mushrooms have the effects it does, and there's a reason why it's a form of therapy
and there's a reason why those who have used it statistically speaking most of them start believing in a sense of spirituality where they haven't before

>>12337610
this assumes that my spirituality isn't mystical. a 'basic understanding of nature and energy, science' wouldn't explain why bear medicine works because there's nothing in the physical universe that allows the bear spirit to take away illness

>>12337619
>this assumes that my spirituality isn't mystical
contrary.. i actually acknowledged that your understanding of it is mystical, and that once you stop thinking of it as such, you can apply science
>bear medicine
i am not native american, so i wouldn't know.. but i'd love to try whatever drug "bear medicine" refers to

>>12337635
i just don't know why applying science would be valuable also
>i am not native american
i'm not either, i'm just most familiar with algonquian indigenous medicine here because i live in lenapehoking
>but i'd love to try whatever drug "bear medicine" refers to
you really wouldn't, from what i understand it's only for serious conditions like cancer which can't be solved through other means. not a fun experience

>>12337638
>why would science be valuable?
for someone like you? it won't change a thing
for someone like me? i feel it should be mandatory, because i wouldn't be giving you some herbs i know nothing about just because they make you high, only to discover later that i've been actively poisoning you
>you wouldn't want to try bear medicine
this right here is precisely what i'm talking about.. i wouldn't know that bear medicine isn't for me if i don't understand the science behind it..
do you have any idea how many people shove chemicals into their brains, not realizing that it's actually bad for you (yes, most people are aware, but you'd be surprised how many aren't)

one scientific information that would've been useful for me to know beforehand for example is that because sodium dehydrates your body, it can increase the high
i wasn't paying attention to science back then and found out the hard way (i accidentally poured 200 gram salt in my edibles instead of 200 gram sugar lmfao, and when i tasted the dough i was like "it's not sweet enough" and added even more salt)

If you have a materialist worldview and do shrooms for the the high you're very unlikely to have any spiritual breakthrough btw

>>12337685
this i can also confirm, but conversation during these highs can help
most of what shrooms lets you know is things you already knew internally, but new information can still be learned (if not about the world, at least about yourself)