Do you still find science cool or fun?

>>16575381 (OP)
Only when it produces things that combine utility and beauty, like a guitar or an integrated circuit.

>>16575493
Magical in a mechanical way maybe, the same way an autist plays with his train kits in his 30s. It is otherwise hell and you're probably a psychopath if you enjoy it in any other way than the aforementioned

>>16576099
>nope. just look at the consciousness phenomenon. weird as shit. based on particle interaction and laws of this universe. fields and quantum shit and all that. it's fucking amazing.
nobody has any (justified) idea of how consciousness works

>>16576118
It's reasonable to think that consciousness follows natural laws, but they don't have to be the ones we currently theorize. Maybe consciousness primarily happens in another space disjoint from the observable universe that follows classical mechanics and no quantum bullshit

>>16576129
>Maybe consciousness primarily happens in another space disjoint from the observable universe
ever wondered why you so easily tend to BELIEVE that? with no proof whatsoever?
>muh intuition is better than scientific method

>>16576129
as in you not only just invented consciousness must be related to some other thing which has nothing to do with this universe, you literally invent that "thing". you pull some "another space disjoint from the observable universe" out of your ass like it clearly makes sense. you invented a whole...thing, just like that, and you're extremely comfortable with that.
bro if that doesn't seem off to you then you'll fuck up with science.

>>16576131
>>16576133
My asspull is just as valid as vaguely assuming that consciousness follows from currently known physics. There's not even any scientific proof "consciousness" exists. Maybe it doesn't exist and you just think you're conscious? Did you follow the scientific method to conclude that you are conscious?

>>16576136
>My asspull is just as valid as vaguely assuming that consciousness follows from currently known physics.
why though? what is the real reason for you just supposing that? it's pure cope and dogma, drop the shit

>>16576137
The very idea of a "consciousness" with subjective experience is dogma and intuition. In the same way, humans across many societies have intuited that consciousness is not tied to our physical bodies. Where does it go? If it existed in the matter we know about, any encoding of consciousness would quickly degrade, so it should exist in a way that it cannot interact much with the known universe.

>>16576140
>intuited that consciousness is not tied to our physical bodies
why I say it's cope. you can't use that as science. it's hope and cope, something else happens after death, and the only way primitive chimps found a way towards that was this "outside our universe other place thing". for whatever primitive reasons. that's not science. doesn't matter ALL people "feel" that, it's not science thus could be pure cope that's it. survival shit. whatever. doesn't matter. it's not science.
also don't get mad at me for invalidating that cope. it's not my fucking problem. I'm just pointing out that's not science.

>>16576147
If that's cope then so is thinking subjective experience exists. We only think it exists based on intuition.

>>16576152
doesn't matter what you call reality. what matters is the consequences of experiencing it. if I can't avoid getting hungry by thinking it's not real Idgaf about what you call it or what you think it is.
also particle interaction and shit in this universe doesn't mean you can't exist after you die here. from your perspective. just keep it science related anon that's it.

>>16576154
Then there's nothing more wondrous about consciousness than your finger being itchy.

>>16576118
>>it's clearly something that's permitted by the laws of this universe.
how do unmaterial laws outside the universe act on a matter inside the universe?

>>16576118
"laws of this universe"
A reminder that scientific "laws" are just our best models for explaining observations. There is no stone tablet stuck at the centre of the galaxy that says it must be this way.
>it can't be any other way
Until you explain the particle interactions Jesus used to make water into wine, I'm not buying it.
Or Cartesian dualism. Thought and consciousness are distinctly separate from matter, as one is proven, per se illustrata, the other is inferrable only through the first, through senses that everybody knows to lie. (As in dreams, hallucinations, etc)

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes, but I’ve long-since accepted that I’m never going to be in a position to solve for than minor mysteries in my field.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes but im an idiot and have accepted that my place is to never solve any real problems or creatively contribute to anything. I'm a spectator, through and through.

>>16576321
>Until you explain the particle interactions Jesus used to make water into wine, I'm not buying it.
the absolute state of /sci/ence

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes but exclusively in things that aren't in my field

>>16575381 (OP)
>1920s paleontologist
>is a grifter who would have been hanged a century before
>2020 paleontologist
>*chitinous noises*

>>16577427
>but observing the natural world and figuring out how it worls will always be cool
thats science

>>16575381 (OP)
I sure try to!

Doge memes are so gay

>>16575381 (OP)
Science stopped being fun when I realized that the current approach can't solve what science pretends to solve. Just look at nutritional science: a century of detailing molecular processes just to circle around the common wisdom that humans should eat fresh plants and fresh animal products preferably not contaminated by capitalist' schemes while chronic disease keeps rising. What the fuck is science doing? Not solving any problems.

>>16575381 (OP)
No. I find it interesting and required for things that are important. I grew out of cool and fun.

>>16575381 (OP)
It is supercool and lots of fun.
Academia is a huge disappointment though.

>>16579816
>chronic disease keeps rising
because they diagnose them more and more
But then more urgent of your problems is that you're a commie faggot.

>>16576063
>circuit on a plastic sheet
PCB too fucking good for you? You actually want garbage that malfunctions despite not visibly breaking?

>>16579943
what if your application has odd shapes and space constraints?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIqhpxul_og

>>16580332
missed the timestamp, see from 15:00

>>16579841
>The search for truth should be polluted by financial and political interests or else you're a commie and that's...le bad.
You're a jew and should kill yourself in a videogame.

>>16578383
No it isn't. Modern science is trusting what experts told you about the natural world.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes, computer science especially. Too bad /g/ is absolutely unusable.

>>16580609
The scientific method at its simplest is literally “fuck around and find out”. Simple as.

>>16581184
So you haven't figured out yet that science operates on the assumption that more knowledge = more control. Every scientific paper is written with that motivation: learning more about the body to develop medicine (control of the body), learning more about the psyche to develop therapy (mind control), learning more about ecology to shape nature according to human values like it's all a recreational park for our amusement, learning more about chemistry to control the properties of substances, Science = control. Yet scientific breakthroughs come from somewhere out of control.

>>16581207
but science is open. I wouldn't trust religious authorities to disclose the scientific reality of some esoteric subject if its useful for them in controlling people. they'd always justify it as a "necessary evil" for some doomporn scenario avoidance.
most humans have a propensity to get as many into a bunker and lie about the dangers of the outside so they get to run their little kingdom. because they get off on the power.

>>16580556
>>The search for truth should be polluted by financial and political interests
That's not what capitalism is about. Capitalism allows people to become wealthy, so that they can fund scientific research (even if it's done by their own children)
The second half of this video describes it very well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqAH5mLZNk
> or else you're a commie and that's...le bad.
being a commie is even worse than just bad, it's atrocious.

>>16576099
Humans are terrified of seeing the magic in things. That, or they're just unsatisfied pieces of shit who take everything for granted.

>>16582006
humans use science to debunk grifters

>>16582210
And then pretend that science wasn’t what was used to grift.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yeah man, I love reading and studying, in all honesty.

>>16575381 (OP)
I think large, potentially colorful chickens are cooler than lame lizard skin freaks to be honest

>>16583615
>>>/x/

>>16575381 (OP)
It’s becoming harder and harder each day…

>>16575381 (OP)
the pursuit of knowledge is always enjoyable until you reach roughly 70% confidence
then it becomes a chore

>>16583207
Is glintstone sorcery science?

>>16588810
‘Graven-Mass Talisman’
‘A talisman depicting the first school of graven mages — a nightmare that would continue to haunt the academy.’
‘The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry.’

It’s mad science.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yeah. I'm the anon who just searched NIH's databases over in the teratoma growth thread and found more SOX2 upregulators than they could find. Shit's easy, bruh.

>>16575381 (OP)
>Do you still find science cool or fun?
yes
but /sci/ence was never cool
and never fun

Yes. I learn new cool stuff all the time from many different sources.

>wolf pups are born blind and deaf, relying on their mother for warmth and nourishment. Their hearing, like their sight, develops over the first two weeks (14 days).

>>16591764
Acutally I was put at knife point at about 3 years old and told I dont hear peoples thoughts, its just my imagination because my mother was in poly psychosis.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes. However, being "cool and fun" is not and has never been the point of any of the sciences. It's incidental.
The kind of person who makes the meme you posted is the kind of person who wants science held back because he is afraid of change and doesn't like that the "cool and fun" stuff he learned as a child is no longer considered accurate. This kind of person wants science to serve primarily as a source of entertainment rather than a source of knowledge.

>>16575381 (OP)
yes

>>16591414
lol

>>16596721
There is a circularity because theories are required to contextualize an data into an observation, but the theories are not of a scientific nature - they are not founded on experiment.
So it is immediately a metaphysical realm, but that doesn't mean it has to go into endless philosophy. Just list principles and assumptions and that constrains the observation. Then tweak those principles and assumptions and see if the observations change - or are even possible.
Of course, it is most probably that the assumptions are over-specified, convenient, and all of those other accusations that can be made of any system taking money from taxpayers.

>>16576099
>smallism to describe consciousness
KYS

>>16576118
>>nobody has any (justified) idea of how consciousness works
>I do. it's based on particle interaction.
That's not an explanation of its qualitative properties you fat faggot retard.

>>16575381 (OP)
>breath
Meme made by a drooling mouth breather.

>>16596721
>just theories
>just
You are one of them, Dunning-Kruger tard.

>>16597955
Kek funniest meme i've seen in a long while.

>>16598570
>>>/b/

>>16598570
Meds.

Is it too late to begin studying geoscience at 25?

Why not just delete the thread you stupid janitors

>>16583207
What happened to her

>>16601556
She fucked around and found out. Simple as.

>>16575381 (OP)
Science isn't suppose to be cool and fun in the first place, fuck all those popsci celebs who made it seem like that

>>16604058
Who says nature isn’t supposed to be cool or fun? Idiot.

>>16575381 (OP)

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes. But the scientists don't want me to.

>>16575381 (OP)
Of course.
Science doesn't bring you money or power or aside very few cases, fame.
The only reason why anyone could be interested in science it's because they like it.

The /sci/ mod hates science being compared to wondrous things like magic and so he prunes all attempts at making science look cool or fun

After going through a war I do not find any science about or for humans cool and fun. Humans are dumb, and spoonfeeding them is a shitty life. Just enjoy your intelligence and let them be dumb. I'm out.

>>16575381 (OP)
I try to, but my peers don't let me!

>>16613208
Be the mad scientist society forbids you to be

Math is fun. Science is hard.

Science is fun. Math is hard.

>>16575381 (OP)
magic is science at its outermost edges

>>16575381 (OP)
lol

>>16575381 (OP)
Not all of it is fun but there's no fun outside of it. Every other human activity is either glorified death or glorification of death.

>>16575381 (OP)
Science is way more bland a boring than human imagination.

this is science

if you don't find science or math at least intellectually interesting, why bother posting on the underwater mongolian basket weaving website's board about science and math? they're fun. it's fun to learn. you guys don't like learning?

>>16579841
Lmfao cope

>>16614546
humans are trying to science magic so they can corrupt it to their will, ye

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes, I'm endlessly entertained by it. That's all it is to me.

>The Aneristic Principle is that of order, the Eristic Principle is that of disorder. On the surface, the Universe seems (to the ignorant) to be ordered; this is the aneristic illusion. Actually, what order is “there” is imposed on primal chaos in the same sense that a person’s name is draped over his actual self. It is the job of the scientist, for example, to implement this principle in a practical manner and some are quite brilliant at it. But on closer examination, order dissolves into disorder, which is the ERISTIC ILLUSION.

>>16575381 (OP)
Science is wizardry. Normies pretend it isn't.

>>16575381 (OP)
love me science

>>16614546
I really hate when people say shit like “it’s not magic”, or “it’s perfectly natural”, as though they don’t appreciate it. Bitch, the modern world is practically an Atlantean one.

>>16575381 (OP)

>>16624708
hawhawhaw

>>16575381 (OP)
I like the aesthetic. I despise the dorks.

>>16624708
Most deluded söyboy 'toss of all time.

>>16627259
Mathematicians are left of Logicians since math is just a subsystem of logical systems

>>16624708
the subverted implication is that physics is just applied mathematics

the author realized this is factually wrong and so did a cheap copout
This comic is not internally consistent

>>16575381 (OP)
He certainly did.

>>16604058
How joyless of a person you are. If you can't find joy and wonder in the natural sciences then I feel sorry for you.

>>16627912
You feel sorry for the vast majority of the human race, then. Our species is a giant ungrateful turd.

>>16575381 (OP)
The vast majority of the scientific community hates science subconsciously. They hate each other.

>>16624708
>>16627269
Philosophers should be all the way to the right since even mathematicians can't work without the law of non contradiction, but sociology does not adhere to that law so if sociology should be to the right of philosophers and philosophers to the right of mathematicians then it's not an actual line but a circle

>>16575381 (OP)
Science(natural) is bullshit. Mathematics is the only legitimate science. While some faggots claim doing "abstract" maths, Its not mathematics.

>>16576213
White holes, my friend, white holes.

>>16629160
Math is not a science. That's why it's /sci/ - Science & Math.

>>16629462
Math and science are as inseparable as science and art, or art and math.

To be quite frank, some argue that math is the purest science of all, TOO pure to be a science, even.

“One plus one always equals two. Always.”
“Okay, show me your theory for that.”
“What?”
“What?”

Whether you consider math to be science is irrelevant. It still works. It’s inseparable. It IS the language of science. Everything.

We can get more annoying. Like, what is matter? Anything with mass, or anything that… matters(is real/present)?

Google Search: “Matter without mass?”
Google Answer: “Yes, retard. Photons.”

Google Search: “Is light matter?”
Google Answer: “No, retard. Light 0 mass!”

Semantics is the literal rot of all scientific discussion, and you are no longer talking about science.

>>16575381 (OP)
No, it feels like hundreds of wasted man hours that go nowhere and yields nothing. Scientific progress has been denied in favor of making faggot ass “applications” for a dying empire’s disintegrating economy

>>16629797
good post

>>16629797
One plus one equals two depends on axiomatic assumptions that are asserted a priori and cannot be rationally proven.
The definition of 1, 2, +, =, the rules of arithmatic, these things are no less innate than a controversial psychological theory or a taxonomic classification of a worm.
They all depend on an entity outside the 'system' that they delineate, in order to select then from the set of all possible axioms, into a subset that coheres enough to 'produce' derivative statements.

>>16575381 (OP)
Science is fun, I just don't like the people that like science

>>16575381 (OP)
Doge memes are cool and fun

>>16575381 (OP)
What did science look like when it was supposedly cool or fun for OP? Was it Origin of Species time? When people were able to explore new landmasses and discover new species that they could draw pictures of and refer to in later documentation. Was it when people were making more progress in astrolonomical phenomena and determine the probabilities that "life as we know it" existed outside of this planet? There are still many mysteries even from these time periods that haven't been either rigorously explored or properly documented. I think one of the issues that may make modern science a little less appealing for some, but probably not all, is the economic system attached to it. If the majority of people had their fundamental needs met without needing to appease some other system through their careers they'd possibly occasionally find interesting subjects to explore more scientifically through personal research online. I think many people I've met who seemed even like what some may refer to as "laymen" have this propensity and it's kind of unsettling to think there may be a lot of exceptions. What would a person be like from a day to day basis if they genuinely had no curiosity about the natural world and were unable to find interest in anything that required the most rudimentary forms of rigor or exploration? It's possible, however, I've met some of these types.

>>16575381 (OP)
I like doge

>>16576136
>There's not even any scientific proof "consciousness" exists.
Who cares? Science doesn't have a monopoly on epistemology.
> Maybe it doesn't exist
It does because I experience it.

>>16576157
The experience of itchiness has no scientific explanation. It is rather wondrous.

>>16581658
>Capitalism allows people to become wealthy
Capitalism allows a tiny minority of people to become wealthy by exploiting others, and to use their wealth to manipulate the rest of society to their own ends.

There is nothing more magical than capitalism.

>>16634265
>'weasel word'
Got another one

>>16632299
Those without rigor follow dreams, intagible and inmobile

>>16634455
Which weasel? Magicalism or capitalism?

>>16634265

>>16575381 (OP)
My last job was putting soil samples in jars, taking them to the lab and testing them. I loved every minute of it. It was only when my boss asked me to do illegal shit by cutting corners that I was forced to quit. Otherwise I imagine I'd still be there.

>>16627269
Logic is literally a subset of math.

>>16629138
Philosophy is a fucking joke outside of the Ancient Greek and Medieval schools of philosophy. It's falsifiable to a fault and doesn't even assert any real methods of proving anything. It's literally just power-scaling for nerds too retarded to do science.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes.

>>16634977
Neither is can you affect.

Learning new ideas is like getting a stabwound but the feeling of already knowing it is
E U P H O R I C

>>16636035
*It isn't falsifiable to a fault

It's too close minded. It works better when it is open. You can still have your religion. Now science IS the religion...lame.

>>16636035
>Philosophy is a fucking joke
Philosophy is literally just pondering. Science HAS a (natural) philosophy. Physicists can't exactly avoid taking philosophical positions when they do a theoretical or hypothetical.

>>16638999
I don't have a problem with philosophy in and of itself. Science is ultimately derived from natural philosophy and there are many schools of Ancient and Medieval philosophy that serve as a good basis to better oneself and the world in addition to being a good lens to see the world through.

My problem with philosophy is that modern philosophy is for the most part idle thinking about questions we really can't answer no matter how hard we try since we aren't in a position to know the answers to these questions and they are either poorly worded or just not even in the realm of things we could attempt to answer. It comes up with questions that there's no way we could get meaningful answers to.

At least when a philosophical question comes up in mathematics or in science, it's the result of a proof, theoretical result or an experimental result, so even if it is unanswerable, it has substance to it and has actual implications and merit to finding out an answer. Most philosophical questions are basically quackery.

>>16639023
It sounds like you just hate idle thinkers and procrastinators. It sounds like the reality of not knowing deeply frustrates you. It borders on a religious sort of feeling, perhaps even fear. A conscious or subconscious dread of the unknowable. Hmm.

That you lump quackery philosophy in with philosophy as a whole is a very black and white angle to begin with. Again, literally anything that is talked about hard or deep enough can be considered a form of philosophy, if it pertains to reality. "Why is it so?"

Physicists are also allowed to crack open a bear and discuss stranger things for the fun of it. Much of philosophy is just for the fun of it.

>>16639278
>a bear
a beer*

>>16629138
>Philosophers should be all the way to the right since even mathematicians can't work without the law of non contradiction, but sociology does not adhere to that law so if sociology should be to the right of philosophers and philosophers to the right of mathematicians then it's not an actual line but a circle
Based.
I agree and want to expand on that thought, that most fields of science feed off of each other in order to progress. There is a high level of interconnectivity between the different fields, even if it's just a circle like this guy suggests.

Lol'ing at all the deleted posts

>>16640453
I really don't understand all the butthurt.

>>16575381 (OP)
>Do you still find science cool or fun?
No, not really. It's just the fumblings of man.

>>16639023
>My problem with philosophy is that modern philosophy is for the most part idle thinking about questions we really can't answer no matter how hard we try since we aren't in a position to know the answers to these questions
How is this a bad thing, exactly? Anything we don’t know is everything else out there, and there are definitely going to be things we can only speculate at, like when it comes to psychology and such. There’s a difference between believing and entertaining. Many of the greatest minds in history - natural philosophers proper - were entertaining, not necessarily believing, rather arcane forms of thought, without any proof. Some minds in antiquity had no proof at all, and yet they still came to shockingly accurate assumptions about nature. There is definitely a form of “natural mysticism”, the way Democritus - the ‘father of the atom’ - absolutely *knew* that things got smaller and smaller. Some just philosophized the nature of things correctly before we could get to the confirmation point. I find that interesting, but also comforting. Even when they did come to accurate conclusions, they still nonetheless spliced it all with the arrogance of the imagination. Safe science is stifling science, since it doesn’t like to attempt or entertain new things.

I do agree however that philosophy updates itself, and natural philosophy is the philosophy that won out. Nature is nature no matter the nature. We philosophize from there. Keep to what we know, and to what we can realistically speculate about.

>>16639278
>Much of philosophy is just for the fun of it.
This is another thing. Sometimes philosophizing is just silly backyard talk and nothing else - but these people are still entertaining/philosophizing the unknowable. Why not? There will be frontiers we can barely guess at.

>>16641489
Scientists don't like to wonder or ponder, since it runs the risk of being ostracised by your peers or community.

>>16575381 (OP)
It's fun. The others are just gay and nofun.

>>16635620
Did he actually say that

>>16644441
It could have always been Groucho Marx, or even Erwin!

Even looksmaxxing is an application of science, and from what I've heard Karl really needed it.

>>16644708
lmao

Good thread.

>>16575381 (OP)
Do you not find science cool or fun?

>>16642318
>Scientists don't like to wonder or ponder
Really, “if we can’t look at it directly then it’s not worth talking about” has never worked, and the scientific community just sucks now.

>>16575381 (OP)
No I'm not a child anymore so the wow of how things are doesnt phase me.

>>16575381 (OP)
i find it fun

Only before I take a class on it. As soon as I study a new topic, academia makes it so soulless and shoves it down my throat giving me PTSD after the exams I never wanna see that shit again for at least a year. That's how I went through electrical engineering and learned to hate my passion hehe

>>16575381 (OP)
>Do you still find science cool or fun?
yes to both. now that I approach the end of the sixth decade of my life, I even acquired some taste for applied mathematics. it's weird - maybe this is how dementia is starting to show? I was always the symbolic computation/structure theory guy, even made a living out of it.

The scientific community prevents it from being fun

I feel like I'm dating a bipolar girl

>>16575381 (OP)
lol

>>16579816
>just to circle around the common wisdom
Because humans did this for millenia in tedious trial and error, same reason fasting is done in all the major world religions, it simply works.

“Fuck around and find out” is literally the scientific method but for some reason the scientific community doesn’t want you to know this.

Unhinged thread

>>16657296
so rehing it.

>>16657339
What?

>>16654003
It really is that shrimple, huh.

>>16576131
midwitting hard boy ?

There is no recipe for cool or fun. I haven't found it yet.

>>16575381 (OP)
Physics has grown slow and steadily on me but I remain a pseud, unmotivated to grasp the calculations.

>>16591770
What?

Yeah

>>16575381 (OP)
Mhm.

>>16658243
>>16661663
What?

No. Science sucks ass and is a complete grift front to back. There's nothing redeemable about it and I wasted years of my life on it.

>>16636035
the tendency for people who overuse the word "literally" to make awful, low IQ posts is amusingly consistent.

>>16669425
>Uses literally in the correct in the sense that he believes logic is a de facto subset of math.
>Complains about a month old post

You just sound like a pseud and a cunt.

>>16669425
>>16669444
Lmao, now kiss

>>16575381 (OP)
i do it can explain the universe in an logical sense but only philosophy can help you handle how insignificant we are.

>>16627271
isn't it?

Scientists are always slap fighting over literally everything it’s hilarious.

>>16575381 (OP)
You don’t?

>>16575381 (OP)
Nowadays i find it useless, especially the basic sciences. Became less of a theoretician and more of a practician.

>>16627912
Looks like you are still in your carl sagan romanticising science arc, academic. You'll grow out of this phase eventually.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yeah, not so much other people though.

>>16575381 (OP)
Reddit

>>16575381 (OP)
Yeah, I just want to commit violence on admin so much it is unreal.

>>16575381 (OP)
yes

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes, math can fuck off though

>>16677913
Why? Math is beautiful. I suck at math and I know this.

>>16575381 (OP)
It's pretty cool but it's never been fun.

>>16575381 (OP)
No. The entire modern world is circum/sci/sed.

>>16679697
Zinger.

>>16575381 (OP)
no, because exercising it as a job or even as hobby is mostly prohibitive given the unhealthy conditions one must face if so (the conditions being being surrounded or judged by academics, that is, professional Communists, in almost every aspect of your activity, from sharing lunch time to getting your grant proposal accepted): >>16681966

>>16679070
Math is ugly retard

>>16636035
>Philosophy is a fucking joke outside of the Ancient Greek and Medieval schools of philosophy. It's falsifiable to a fault and doesn't even assert any real methods of proving anything. It's literally just power-scaling for nerds too retarded to do science.
Measurement itself is a philosophical construct. The very idea of observation, falsifiability, and evidence comes from epistemology. Science is applied philosophy.

>>16627106
>soulless modernist concrete and glass box
I can tell what a faggot you are just by this post alone

>>16575381 (OP)
Only Engineering and Chemistry really. Though I’m still interested in the rest.

Nature is always cool. You just have to find the right people to poke at it with.

>>16576063
>utility
>guitar
yea, that guitar provides SO MUCH utility, retard

>>16685071
it's useful if you're not a soulless NPC subhuman like you
kek

i <3 science

>>16686619
Do you lurv it?

>>16576136
>Maybe it doesn't exist and you just think you're conscious?
This may or may not hold true for everyone else except me. But not for me since I do experience consciousness.

no , it made for repitition

>>16575381 (OP)
Gee, who would have thought that questioning how things work could be considered fun or cool?

>>16686619
>ywn bend Mme. Curie over her desk and drain futile loads into her irradiated womb
why even live bros

>>16685071
>le art isn't even le heckin Usefulerino
I was told this board is for smart people, the fuck is this pseud faggotry?

>>16575381 (OP)
I do. I still try to read at least one paper a week even though I'm long out of college.

>>16575381 (OP)
>cool
absolutely
>or fun?
only when I'm doing or researching something that's fully separate from my day-to-day job. spreadsheets and drawings are boring as fuck, even when the underlying principles of whatever I'm working on are interesting
t. mech engineer

Atheists don’t want you to have fun

>>16575381 (OP)
doge

>>16690405
You're disgusting.

>>16693985
No he has his priorities in order.

>>16694749
You disgust me.

>>16693985
Up yours, Woke Moralist.
We'll see who cancels whom.

>>16696256
Eat shitty asshole.

>>16575381 (OP)
meme in inaccurate

>>16575381 (OP)
meme in accurate

>>16697700
cope and sneed, fuckwit. this is a deeply satanic website and you are not welcome here.

>>16575381 (OP)
Kek

>>16575381 (OP)
>ate only fruits and nuts
>somehow they are the size of a 4 story building or even bigger
>Elephants eat between 150 to 300 kilograms of food per day, they waste more than 12 hours to eat or to reach the food, they weight between 2 and 6 tons and can reach 4 meters
hmm

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes?

>>16575381 (OP)
Evolution is overrated

>>16704361
It never happened. The emperor has no clothes.

The best they can show you is a variation *within* a kind, then they claim it proves changes of kinds (it doesn't), and they claim it proves life coming from a common ancestor (it doesn't), and they claim it proves life came from non-life (it doesn't, and that literally violates a law of biology). And all of that is founded upon the blind faith belief that literally nothing exploded into a universe of laws and order and systems which can be rationally studied, it's just all so dumb; but most people are indoctrinated by the schools and media, and most are too cowardly to critically analyze what they were indoctrinated to believe. Just consider all the hate and hostility I'll get in response to this science-based post for challenging their science-denying creation myth which never passed the scientific method; most people aren't even willing to consider something if it gets that sort of hatred in response.

>>16704361
>>16704368
Things don’t progress? Things don’t happen? Gee wiz.

>@16704368 (You)
>t. too retarded to grasp the sheer scale of Geologic Time

Herpa derpa

>>16575381 (OP)
idk

Yes, I love math and computer science. I think neuroevolution is fascinating and would like to contribute to the field one day. I read research papers on artificial intelligence and use them to build models and reproduce their results, but I have only been studying the subject for about one month in order to improve my professional skills as a programmer.

When you have seen the proverbial mountaintop of most commercial software development it is not seriously intellectually challenging. I discovered the science of machine learning while searching for a new challenge to expand my skills and compete in the job market. It is a fascinating subject full of powerful ideas.

I also think astronomy is fascinating and full of wonders but am only an enthusiast on the subject. I love reading about all the strange and fascinating things happening in outer space.

Yes. Learning is fun

>>16575381 (OP)
yes!

>>16581207
Modeling ..Understanding and cateloguing, largely simpler and easier than trying to slap control fantasies onto reality imo

i find
>put more money into scandinavian uni interest groups but then hide that fact forever with obscure filing
to be the upper interesting point of science

>>16575381 (OP)
The dinosaur community is hilarious. We will never know how they (dinosaurs) truly looked like, and they can only cope. Did they have feathers? Probably.

>>16685071
A guy stopped the moon wiping out a racetrack with one.

>>16575381 (OP)
Yes. You don’t?

>>16575381 (OP)
I hate Physics.

>>16712757
I hate you.

>>16714265
Do you hate me as much as I hate physics?

>>16575381 (OP)
>Do you still find science cool or fun?
Not cool but its still interesting.

>>16575381 (OP)
No, it's negrophilia
I served Netflix and foodpanda it sux