Thread 16693057 - /sci/ [Archived: 627 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:48:47 AM No.16693057
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Thoughts on panspermia?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:56:07 AM No.16693064
>>16693057 (OP)
Not sure which board bukkake goes on but I don't think it's this one
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:05:22 AM No.16693069
Good for a science fiction story. We have a solid understanding of life beginning as amino acids forming complex organic molecules like proteins.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:31:04 AM No.16693084
>>16693057 (OP)
Possibly true but like Simulation Theory, it's mostly an attempt to put another turtle on the stack.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:31:40 AM No.16693085
>>16693057 (OP)
i honestly thoughts bugs must be from outer space, because they look so fucking weird and there's so much variety. with mammals every is pretty uniform, but bug species are in the literal millions.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 9:56:29 AM No.16693179
>>16693057 (OP)
gods sperm started life on earth
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:44:09 PM No.16693268
>>16693069
by understanding, you mean no evidence, no model, no experiment, no replication, and a bunch of made up bullshit
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:53:44 PM No.16693274
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>>16693057 (OP)
It's gay, scientifically speaking.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:21:12 PM No.16693287
Life is unlikely enough. The chances of life being transported in a meteorite, surviving and landing on a planet that can support it are extraordinarily small.

Although there were more meteorites back when the earth was young, I still don't believe it
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:08:55 PM No.16693342
>>16693287
Bacterial spores might be able to do it.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:49:19 PM No.16693408
>>16693057 (OP)
>"Okay, and how did life originate over there where it was brought from?"
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:11:31 PM No.16693430
Planets are eggs?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:24:30 PM No.16693692
>>16693430
Yes.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 10:43:32 PM No.16693716
>>16693057 (OP)
The problem with the theory of panspermia is... where did the extraterrestrials come from? Clearly they had to originate somewhere, so why wouldn't the same process have just happened on Earth? That's way more likely than life somehow getting onto a meteorite, surviving for thousands or millions of years in space, and then surviving going through the atmosphere and then crash landing.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:40:50 PM No.16693786
>>16693057 (OP)
Panspermia is cool and all but all it really does is kick the can down the road. If life arrived on Earth from panspermia via meteorites then how did that life that traveled here come about?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:53:28 AM No.16693875
>>16693716
>>16693786
It’s probably something more profound. Like a seed ship. The origin is intelligent.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:37:56 AM No.16693906
>>16693786
Society supports science with resources because it expects a certain level of results. Panspermia gives science an excuse for not being able to answer how life on Earth started. The answer has to wait until we are a space faring species that's explored much of the galaxy. It's a very convenient form of can kicking.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:33:20 AM No.16693927
>>16693408
This isn't some sort of epic burn
This isn't a closed-loop philosophical framework, this is real life. You don't have to have all answers ready to go
It's legitimate to investigate whether life arrived from elsewhere, and if it turns out to be true, then we just don't know where it came from. That's an entirely separate question.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:34:56 AM No.16693928
>>16693906
What if it's true though? Are you going to cope and seethe that reality is kicking the can?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:29:46 AM No.16693973
>>16693057 (OP)
Pollen is small enough to reach space and travel on interstellar wind. Perhaps plants have managed to transfer genes between stars.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 10:32:31 AM No.16694072
>>16693875
That still doesn't explain where said intelligent life came from. The whole theory defies Occam's Razor.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:05:12 AM No.16694083
>>16694072
The panspermia idea one I find most credible is that life evolved in space (as in not on a planet) during the early universe when the ambient pressure and temperature of space in general was higher and is thus life is "baked in" to most things and readily available in frozen rocks in space. I don't think that's any likely though, perhaps slightly more likely than mars (or some proto planet) in our own solar system developing life and then spreading from there to earth.

The idea is cool but ultimately very unlikely, life has to develop somewhere and the additional steps and time required to spread trough space just adds to the complexity. Far more likely that life develops on the plant it's present in, if we had good data on Mars and maybe Europa we could make it clear since if panspermia was true those places would inevitably have life as well but it would be related to us.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:21:08 AM No.16694090
>>16693057 (OP)
boring. Goalpost moving. Same as simulation theory. NEXT
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:29:07 PM No.16694130
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>>16693057 (OP)
>Thoughts on panspermia?

I think astroecology is an insufferably cool field of biology that we should be spending billions of dollars on, but I also think it's very much a "imagine studying marine biology, but you can only look at what's on the dry sand bar" kind of situation. We're very much limited by the technology and budgets of our current time, completely at the mercy of needless hypotheticals.

I vaguely recall NASA having found an interesting bit of rock that might be a shellfish fossil of some kind on Mars, but we won't know for sure unless we can bring a sample back and that can't happen because they don't have the money to do that.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 4:48:24 PM No.16694289
>>16693928
What if the universe was created through God farting really hard one night? Your "what if" is completely untestable and therefore completely worthless in the context of science.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:50:32 PM No.16694353
>>16693716
From what I've read, it's more likely self replicating RNA forms in the ice tails of comets that come around stars. There's no recorded evidence it has ever happened, obviously, but in theory some comets have all they need to begin self replicating proteins
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:03:51 PM No.16694363
>>16694072
>That still doesn't explain where said intelligent life came from
Doesn’t have to. It could have been some normally evolved civilization that decided to seed other worlds its own way. Hence intelligent. Life, or the cultivation of it, as a form of art. The idea that intelligent life would want to create more life is pure, or wholesome to me.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 6:08:36 PM No.16695232
>>16693057 (OP)
It’s fun to play with.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 1:48:41 PM No.16695983
>>16693057 (OP)
>Thoughts on panspermia?
I'm against it.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:05:46 AM No.16697301
>>16693057 (OP)
It’s gross.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:17:02 AM No.16697358
I think panspermia is a pretty likely theory. Stars are constantly moving relative to each other, and on a timeline of life (billions of years) many many star systems would have approached sol- it is estimated once per 100,000 years that a star passes through the Oort Cloud. For example, Scholz star passed within the Oort Cloud 70,000 years ago, and we didn’t even know it happened til 2013. Right now Alpha Centauri is the closest star system but that’s constantly changing.
It’s likely panspermia happens in some fraction of these encounters.
The implications of panspermia are also interesting. The aliens of classic sci fi like the kzin being able to eat humans (and vice versa) make sense if we both have a common ancestor so our biology isn’t very different. If life developed independently, it would be rarer for species to be able to eat each other, much less live in the same atmosphere. If the fundamental common ancestor uses DNA, they can’t survive too hot or too cold because it would denature their DNA. But if the fundamental chemistry is something quite different like arsenic based or something, the would likely be mega poisonous to us and probably vice versa too.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:40:17 PM No.16697739
>>16697358
Good post.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:22:52 PM No.16699310
>Planets just take it in the face
It’s kind of gay.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:39:29 PM No.16699358
>>16693084
>>16693716
>>16693786
>>16694090
The argument (or one of them anyway) is that there was too complex life too early (i.e. even "simple" prokaryotes were too complex) for it to have had time to evolve here. If that's the case (I don't know if it is), "kicking the can down the road" can make sense.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:12:54 PM No.16699376
>>16697358
>If life developed independently, it would be rarer for species to be able to eat each other, much less live in the same atmosphere
Depends on degree of evolutional convergence, for which we have no reference.

It's entirely likely that all possible multicellular life is always carbon-based with left-handed enantiomer amino acids aerobic metabolism.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:08:09 PM No.16699559
>>16697358
Would be really hot if aliens were slightly exotic fuckable humanoids. Assuming panspermia theory correct, it seems quite plausible.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:18:04 AM No.16699679
idgi. it seems like an explanation for a phenomenon that someone imagined. we haven't seen ANY aliens yet so positing that we share a common origin with the hypothetical aliens is, to me, a bit like asking which color teleporter sells best.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:25:31 AM No.16699683
>>16699559
no it doesnt. there aren't even "slightly exotic fuckable humans" on earth, captain harkness, sir.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:26:25 AM No.16699686
>>16699358
our knowledge is imperfect. please don't act like it is. just because we don't know how or why something happened doesn't mean that it couldn't have.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:26:32 AM No.16699687
>>16699683
humanoids*
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:44:22 AM No.16699745
>>16699559
This is one of the themes of ringworld, a classic sci fi book. Basically, a civilization made a ringworld (used all the planets in a solar system to make a ring 1m miles wide and 600 m miles long. So it’s got 3 million times the surface area of earth. And then evolution happens and all the humans on it evolve a little differently until they’re separate species (can’t have children together) but still have semi technological civilization. The different evolutions each take an ecological niche (because there are no other big animals on the ringworld) like grass eating (cow-like) corpse eating(vulture-like), etc.

Yes, all the memes about aliens in starwars or startrek that are basically humans but green or with horns or whatever is much more feasible than you might initially think once you consider
panspermia/genetic divergence
>>16697358
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:28:00 PM No.16699872
>>16693069
>buzzwords over cum
/sci/
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:57:49 PM No.16699999
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I prefer wombspermia
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:12:18 PM No.16700767
Jizz all the way up and down

>>16699999
Checked
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:10:49 PM No.16700884
>>16699999
The numbers tell me you like mouthspermia
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:07:43 PM No.16703319
>>16699999
Based
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 7:46:36 PM No.16705062
>>16693057 (OP)
It sounds extremely gay
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:49:50 AM No.16705267
>>16693057 (OP)
As others have pointed out, it doesn't answer the question of how life actually began.

What it does do, which I haven't seen people point out, is explain why we don't see the process occur on Earth. The necessary conditions could be completely absent in Earth's history but otherwise mundane on whatever planet whose rock managed to find its way on a collision course with the rock we call home.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:49:58 AM No.16705398
>>16693287
>Life is unlikely
life started on earth about zero seconds after it was possible for it to do so
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:57:45 PM No.16706881
>>16693057 (OP)
Ew space semen
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:07:09 PM No.16707190
>>16693064
This is the opposite of a bukkake which is when a bunch of sperm sources all spew on the same face instead of panspermia where one source spews all over all the faces.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:12:28 PM No.16707191
>>16693085
r vs K reproduction strategy, you get way more variety if you only live days instead of decades.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:45:59 PM No.16707305
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Doesn't make sense to me.
>earth has been warm, full of water, with an atmosphere, rich in minerals and organic materials.
>majority of life has required in abundance what earth has always supplied with liquid water and temperate climates being absolutely necessary for survival and reproduction.
>oh but its not probable Earth's environment had the conditions necessary for life to start, it must have come from somewhere else with extreme conditions.

It seems to put forward an idea that extremophiles are ultimately the precursor to life on earth as that is what's necessary to survive a trip through space, but if that's the case then why is most of life on earth not extremophiles still?

It's speculated that most where when earth itself was had an extreme climate but life seems to have evolved to be less extreme as earth became less extreme itself but that only begs the question if life did come from space it means whatever planet they came from must have been more hostile than earth ever was.

This is before you get into how life could end up on a rock that managed to achieve escape velocity of not only its host planet, but its star system too. Implies a cataclysmic event which isn't unusual but is itself an event that would likely obliterate all life
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:44:22 PM No.16708243
>>16693069
Its a giant leap from a protein to a cell.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:46:13 PM No.16708246
>>16693268
>no model, no experiment, no replication, and a bunch of made up bullshit
this nigga hasn't heard of a fucking tide pool topkek
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:51:35 AM No.16708317
>>16708246
May I see one of these tide pools in which spontaneous generation occurs?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:24:20 AM No.16708338
>>16708317
>le goalpost shift from amino acids to full generating life has arrived
sigh
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:38:12 AM No.16708350
>>16693057 (OP)
Pollen floats into space and spreads across the universe. Plants are already fucking alien bitches.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:40:25 AM No.16708352
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>>16708338
okay, I have a fully formed arginine molecule floating in a tide pool for some reason, now what?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:51:37 AM No.16708361
>>16693057 (OP)
depends on your definition, tholins from a meteorite as seed material for the soup are very likely but do not count as life
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:53:02 AM No.16708362
>>16708352
>Go google "DNA synthesis" for me!!!!!
nah kid
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:58:49 AM No.16708365
>>16708362
May I see the tide pool in which I can observe DNA synthesis?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:01:51 AM No.16708367
>>16708365
I don't disavow hamas what now chud
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:03:44 AM No.16708369
>>16708367
I don't understand the relevance of that statement.
Anyways, may I see the tide pool in which I can observe DNA synthesis?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:57:18 AM No.16708390
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Panspermia Rain
Tayhee Zondallyday

Spermy Rain
Some stay dry and others feel the pain

Spermy Rain
A baby born will die before the sin

Spermy Rain
The school books say it can't be here again

Spermy Rain
The prisons make you wonder where it went

Spermy Rain
Build a tent and say the world is dry

Spermy Rain
Zoom the camera out and see the lie

Spermy Rain
Forecast to be falling yesterday

Spermy Rain
Only in the past is what they say

Spermy Rain
Raised your neighborhood insurance rates

Spermy Rain
Makes us happy 'livin in a gate

Spermy Rain
Made me cross the street the other day

Spermy Rain
Made you turn your head the other way

Spermy Rain
History quickly crashing through your veins

Spermy Rain
Using you to fall back down again

Spermy Rain
History quickly crashing through your veins

Spermy Rain
Using you to fall back down again

Spermy Rain
Seldom mentioned on the radio

Spermy Rain
It's the fear your leaders call control

Spermy Rain
Worse than swearing worse than calling names

Spermy Rain
Say it publicly and you're insane

Spermy Rain
No one wants to hear about it now

Spermy Rain
Wish real hard it goes away somehow

(Yes, it really keeps going like this)
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:57:58 AM No.16708392
>>16708369
Any of em, just requires a fuckin 4channer go outside (you won't)
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:59:37 AM No.16708393
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(Yes, it really keeps going like this)

Spermy Rain
Makes the best of friends begin to fight

Spermy Rain
But did they know each other in the light?

Spermy Rain
Every February washed away

Spermy Rain
Stays behind as colors celebrate

Spermy Rain
The same crime has a higher price to pay

Spermy Rain
The judge and jury swear it's not the face

Spermy Rain
History quickly crashing through your veins

Spermy Rain
Using you to fall back down again

Spermy Rain
History quickly crashing through your veins

Spermy Rain
Using you to fall back down again

Spermy Rain
Dirty secrets of economy

Spermy Rain
Turns that body into GDP

Spermy Rain
The bell curve blames the baby's DNA

Spermy Rain
But test scores are how much the parents make

Spermy Rain
Flippin' cars in France the other night

Spermy Rain
Cleans the sewers out beneath Mumbai

Spermy Rain
'Cross the world and back it's all the same

Spermy Rain
Angels cry and shake their heads in shame

Spermy Rain
Lifts the ark of paradise in sin

Spermy Rain
Which part do you think you're livin' in?

Spermy Rain
More than marchin', more than passing law

Spermy Rain
Remake how we got to where we are

Spermy Rain
History quickly crashing through your veins

Spermy Rain
Using you to fall back down again

Spermy Rain
History quickly crashing through your veins

Spermy Rain
Using you to fall back down again
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:02:49 AM No.16708395
>>16708392
ANY tide pool?
DNA is synthesized from floating amino acids?
If you went and checked, and didn't find this occurring, would you revise your hypotheses?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:07:18 AM No.16708397
>>16708395
if yer sat there 100 million years yea, have fun waiting
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:09:28 AM No.16708398
>>16708397
What part of DNA synthesis takes 100 million years? Do tide pools last that long, geologically?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:58:53 AM No.16709839
>>16707305
dumb cirno poster
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:46:50 AM No.16710666
>>16693057 (OP)
Its gay
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:16:03 AM No.16710748
>>16705398
Everything starts zero seconds after it's possible for it to do so, think about what you're saying.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:20:56 AM No.16710759
>>16693057 (OP)
i usually just use a kleenex, why make more dishes for yourself?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:13:57 AM No.16710791
Irrelevant. Niggas prentending they could deflect questions regarsing how life first came to be through panspermia. But the original question always remains. If the conditions for the crestion of life could be found on earth then its likely it was created here and id not panspermia is definately a thing but it still begs the question: Where from and how was it crested there.