Where do you go to rent telescopes, that are still of a decent size, but are not governed by these gay ass committees that only care about status, and how much cock you've sucked?

I am an private non-space adjacent individual, attempting to find planet 9, and need a fairly large telescope to see if it's in the location I have calculated for today.

I have tracked it across a majority of the epochs, including 1992, 1993, 1999, 2010, and there was a small blip in the 2006 data, but not enough to be definitive, different spectrums that show it's a cold planet (specifically 1999 epoch, H band.
Picture is related, it's the location it was in 1999, with the bands, if you managed to figure out where it is from this, lulz

Anyone want to help a brotha out?

>>16694039 (OP)
Generally I would apply iron law of retards to cases like this but since you appear to have actually done some work Ill just answer that such telescopes generally can't be "rented" at least I don't know off any telescope that big, I think the biggest renters are something like half a meter. Telescopes of that scale are all institutional, some of them may have a price on top but all of them require you to apply for a time slot in one form or another. Most of the committees don't care much about status, you just need a good proposal. If you are incapable of doing something like that and your background is mostly maths then maybe contact a real astronomer or your local university and work with them on the issue, easier to convince a professor with what you have if you are a sperg than a committee that has to read hundreds of schizo babble papers a day.

I mean if you are bezos levels of rich I'm sure you can just call an organization and rent it directly but doubt that's an option for you.

>>16694039 (OP)
Try this?
https://bigamateurtelescope.com/

Also, try contacting some amateur astronomy groups. some guys have telescopes of that kind of size at home and you might be able to contact them with your idea.

>>16694156
I don't think any group has "1.5 meter telescopes at home" anon. That's not the length of the tube but the diameter. Well maybe some absolute mad lad has one but it really is professional astronomy tier at that point. Amateur astronomy groups may have one but it's certainly not at anyones garage.

>>16694180
there are some guys have them up to 70", with more as you scale down obviously. just look this stuff up if you're really interested. i found a list with one simple search. You can buy ready made large mirrors if you want and make your own mount and housing.

>>16694197
I think you are exaggerating for the meme, I found one example of a "amateur" with a 70 inch, which itself claims to be a record and that one is installed in an observatory and is in professional use now. That is just about the minimum size OP is asking for as well so obviously there's not plenty of guys with those at their homes laying around.
Of course you can "just buy the mirrors" but these weight nearly a ton and are extremely expensive (like millions a pop)

Posting like you are trying to pull some gotcha is neither informative or funny, no idea why you are like this.

>>16694247
>obviously there's not plenty of guys with those at their homes laying around.
nor did i say there were. but there are large amateur scopes out there that you could either arrange to visit or contact and request the observations.
>no idea why you are like this.
im not like anything, other than suggesting ways to gain access to the kind of telescope being sought outside of academia. what have you got to offer?

>>16694258
>what have you got to offer?
about tree fiddy

>>16694039 (OP)
Sure you need something that big? Guys are tracking exoplanets using 16" mirrors
https://www.spectrashift.com/2013-11-08-03-01-54/meade16

>>16694268
ive no idea why you're like this

The more important number is the magnitude, in the bands you have measured. I assume the 1999 epoch is from 2MASS, and you're assuming you need a similar size telescope. Not necessarily, because 2MASS is very shallow exposures.
>I have tracked it across a majority of the epochs, including 1992, 1993, 1999, 2010, and there was a small blip in the 2006 data, but not enough to be definitive, different spectrums that show it's a cold planet
And how have you ruled out the possibility that it's a high proper motion star? Chances are there is already sufficient data out there to tell you.

>>16694096
I'm not that rich, I just had an idea, and followed it to find this, I'm not an astronomer, or even a mathematician. I do life safety, lmfao

>>16694156
Thank you

>>16694180
I mean, it can't be that difficult to make one, right? Just use liquid metal on a rotating pan, I am sure I have some motor in my shop that could run it, maybe i'll go this route.

>>16694409
Well, I have found it in multiple bands, as well as the movement itself within the other epochs, I just wanted to find 'todays' location with a new telescope to complete it, and that way I have a full from where it started, to where it ended, everything in between, to turn in and name it 'Fa-Q' as the planet name for the lulz

>>16694526
But what is the magnitude? That is what tells you whether you need a big telescope or not.

>>16694534
It's a cold planet, so the magnitude was 19.2 magnitude in 1999 J band, in Wise 2010, it was 13.2,

It should be ~13.5 mag today, since it should be close to the farthest part of its orbit.

Supposedly all I need today is an infrared W3 band of '.2' meters, but I wanted to go big or go home.

>>16694542
What about visible bands?

>so the magnitude was 19.2 magnitude in 1999 J band
Are you sure about about that? The 2MASS magnitude limit is about 16-17 in J.

>>16694548
This was based on the WISE W3 value (~13.2) in 2010, Typical TNO/Jovian satellite color correction (W3 – J ≈ –6), so I made said it was 19.2.

apparently there are no commercially available telescopes that I can find with it tuned to be the correct W3 band, so only way to see it is to write up a proposal and suck up to these clowns.

>>16694554
But you said it was detected in 2MASS. If so then it cannot be 19.2.

WISE was a space telescope. The mid infrared is not easily observable from the ground. But if it was detected in other ground based images then clearly the mid infrared is unnecessary.

>>16694558
This is correct, I can try the W1/W2 bans, but like I said those are the ones I would have to fill out a proposal and go through a group of people who circlejerk each other.

I wanted to see if I could just do it all myself without them.

>>16694562
Again, if it was detected by 2MASS then it's much brighter than 19th. Then it should be in existing surveys, possibly Gaia.

You cannot observe W1/W2 from the ground either.

>>16694578
> but like I said those are the ones I would have to fill out a proposal and go through a group of people who circlejerk each other.

Do you not read? Or are you just trying to argue? I'm not sure what exactly you want as a response.

>>16694579
What is the magnitude in the 2MASS catalog? Or DSS?

If this source is real it should be in Gaia's catalog, along with other data. That will tell you the current position.

>>16694587
I already KNOW the current position, I need a telescope to have a picture and prove it is correct.

I'm not giving any more information that can be used to find it, it honestly seems like you are trying to get me frustrated with you in order to show more info, not gonna happen my guy.

Thanks for the convo, but I just for some reason do not like you, or want to continue talking to you.

>>16694597
sounds like that anon knows what he's talking about anon. might not want to dismiss him

>>16694597
>I need a telescope to have a picture and prove it is correct.
And that's what Gaia would do.

> to show more info
Lel. I actually work on this shit. I can see you're using the IRSA. I also know the coordinates of your target:
06:19:48.26 -33:08:45.45
One of us knows what we're talking about.

I don't care about your object. You are about the 10th person I've seen make similar claims, it's always junk or high proper motion stars. I was trying to point you in the sane direction. But you don't want to listen.

>>16694614
>>16694615
I just wanted information on renting a telescope, if it's unable to happen, then I'll go through the 'proper' channels, and do it that way, or just wait for the upcoming mission that will cover the portion of the sky I believe it to be. If not, oh well.

You may be knowledgeable, you may even work in the field, that doesn't matter, I just don't like you from the way you talk, so no thanks.

>>16694651
just to be clear, the first post was me, the guy who posted this >>16694156
im not pretending to be the other guy who knows what hes talking about.

But it might be worth considering if he's right - can you even see in the wavelength you want to see in with a ground based telescope? H band is infrared, for example.

>>16694657
I have found it in multiple epochs, moving correctly, I have found the bands above I made into a gif to show the exact location that I calculated from other epochs. All I wanted to do was have information on renting a telescope in order to make sure it's still moving the way I predicted, or get a better, more accurate view of the object.

I have looked in Gaia, I have looked to make sure it's not a 'star' or a planet that has already been identified.

I understand that he may know of a better direction to go, but honestly I just hate the way he talks, and don't want anything to do with him. I can't explain why, I just don't care enough about it to give that fuckstick any more attention.

I appreciate your attempt to help though, it's good to know that /sci/ isn't as bad as /pol/ or /b/.

>>16694663
>All I wanted to do was have information on renting a telescope in order to make sure it's still moving the way I predicted, or get a better, more accurate view of the object.
fair enough. i mean, you CAN see in H band from the ground but im not sure how well a small scope will do, even if it was on the top of a mountain in the desert in the winter. But anyway, like i say, sounds like the best you can do without approaching guys who run big telescope is to contact some amateur groups and see who you can interest in making your observation. Renting telescope doesn't seem to be much of a thing so far as i can see.

>>16694668
thank you for the help, and I'll try to reach out to a couple of amateur groups, I know that making a claim like this needs a lot of supporting evidence, which is what I was trying to get before bringing anyone else into it, but I seem to have gotten as far as I can solo.

>>16694669
well, would be interested to see if you get anywhere with the guys in the groups. good luck

>>16694671
I'll make sure to keep you all updated, if it turns out to be something else, or the actual planet 'x', aka 'Fa-Q' lol