Those guys are bunch of fags memorizing shit that some boomers wrote cause they felt like and decided that saying or mixing together their shit counts as science, basically If it doesn't smell like their shit, its bad. Shit cultists.

>>16695424 (OP)
>Those guys are bunch of fags memorizing shit that some boomers wrote
Particle physics is mostly a finished field of science, people know how interactions work at the energies that can be reached. There are no misteries except quantum gravity , why would anyone just not memorize the standard model? It just works

He calls out Neil here

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SAoWFxzaPeE

>>16695432
>Particle physics is mostly a finished field of science
it's not
false
>people know how interactions work at the energies that can be reached
false, rare decays and many more
>There are no mysteries except quantum gravity
false
>why would anyone just not memorize the standard model
I'd prefer to understand it.

>>16695439
>youtube shorts
just leave.

>>16695440
>I'd prefer to understand it.
Physics is just a model of reality, call it the best current description. Theres no le deep to understand dumb pajeet

>>16695443
>too lazy to open a link
Isn’t this supposed to be the smart person board

>>16695447
where have I said that theory is something else than formal/semi-formal description of reality?
>>>/pol/

>>16695456
This is a science and math board. I'm not interested in Eric Weinstein's opinions on Neil deGrasse Tyson's struggles.

>>16695459
What struggles? He just said he’s not a true practicing physicist. He’s a science exhibitionist. He can relay science like no other. He absorbs and repeats facts and information. That’s good. We even need that. “But he can’t think”. He’s not a true scientist in the sense that he doesn’t truly entertain hypothetical frontiers. He can’t do that. He won’t stand any talk of UFOs.

>>16695499
>can't think
>not ready to do real science
those.

>>16695424 (OP)
tl;dr this is a US-specific problem
There is a very small cohort of HEP theorists in the US who genuinely try to do original work instead of chasing trends like monkeys. The problem is that, due to the fact that DoE grants work on pure clout, these people can only secure funding in top universities (MIT, Harvard, Princeton), which are coincidentally the Ivory Towers of Ye Olde Guarde a la Witten&Co. The situation is somewhat more optimistic in European institutions such as ETH, Erlangen, Sapienza, etc. I have no idea how things are in Japan, but those guys tend to produce very autistic stuff, so I assume it's Europe-tier. However today both Europe and Japan are in the shitter economically, so the funding is drying up as well. It's not looking too good.

>>16695457
When you said you want to understand and not just memorize.
"Memorize" in this context is just accepting the standard model and its predictions and methods. If it works you just do, understanding it means you can do the calculations because you actually internalized the theory and are not just writing "particles muthafucka" 1000 times in a whiteboard

>>16695512
Why does some theorist need grants to do theoretical work? What happens to scribbling in napkins?
These people make like $150K salaries and go on like oh no i cant scribble unless i get the 2 million scribbling grant please japan save me

>>16695499
And Weinstein is a hedgefund manager with a chip on his shoulder about not being recognized as a genius. For doing literally zero physics research. He's only interesting as a psychiatric case study, nothing he says about physics is interesting.

>>16695432
>Particle physics is mostly a finished field of science
Quite the opposite. Go to a university and compare the QM courses to the "high energy" courses and you'll find that HE has many gaps in understanding, many unknowns, etc.

>>16695432
>_____ physics is mostly a finished field of science
Every person who's said this about any subfield of physics for the last 250 years has been proven wrong every fucking time.

>>16696167
Statistical physics. Go.

>>16695772
Theory grants are generally modest and they're usually for paying for GRA stipends or course releases.

>>16695447
>Physics is a model
>all models are wrong
Physics is wrong.

>>16696172
Yes, the only correct statement that you can make is that your conscious

>>16696168
The FT has really only started to be embraced within the last ~5-10 years as more experimental/observational evidence has been published, and now that exceptions and addendums to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics are finally being considered seriously, theorists are finally starting to push it further and start seeing how deep the implications go. Application of stat methods to modelling nonlinear/chaotic systems is also in very early days, and there's still a lot of open questions regarding self-organization and state transitions in physical systems.

>>16696167
>Every person who's said this about any subfield of physics for the last 250 years
This time is different, theres been no real progress in physics since the 1970s, only minor refinements

>>16695962
You sound upset

>>16696433
>muh anti-memeitism
damn jews sure are stunning and brave against dead enemies from 2000 years ago.

>>16696115
All the "gaps" of HE are just measuring masses and energies and crap out to greater precisions. An entire field of people fooling themselves into thinking they're relevant by saying
>Actually we're not done yet, the EIGHTH decimal place is where we'll find all the REAL answers!
>>16696176
None of this counts

>>16695768
>now i'll redefine concept I'm arguing about so it fits my argumentation line, making my argumentation valid
as I said >>>/pol/

>>16695456
/Sci/ is probably the most bitter board, /diy/ is probably the smartest, and /out/ is probably the happiest, as far as I have seen.