A defense of atheism - /sci/ (#16696131) [Archived: 1206 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:44:49 PM No.16696131
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Eleventh, naturalism would seem to predict the world would involve a Darwinian struggle for survival. Few organisms would survive for very long. The creatures that do exist would be constantly struggling to survive. Naturalism predicts the blind Darwinian mechanism as being the only way to produce life. Theism makes the odds of such a mechanism low. Once again, naturalism’s prediction has been confirmed.

Evolution itself is quite surprising on theism. Designers do not build bridges by throwing together random slop until a few of them happen to get bridges. Evolution is filled with pointless suffering. Why would a God allow it?

Twelfth, if God made the world, why would it be mostly barren and desolate? God could make life on every planet. Life is a good thing. So why—prey tell—would he make a world with almost no life? Why would he wait billions of years before any life began? Surely doing so is just passing up on lots of potential extra value!

Thirteenth, naturalism predicts a random world where conditions would vary locally. It’s no surprise that people have very different experiences in different cultures. But if God is real and sets up the world in ways ideal for our flourishing, what are the odds that, say, the ideal flourishing conditions for those in ancient China would differ dramatically from those of people in the modern day?
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:49:33 PM No.16696134
>>16696131 (OP)
Well, atheism is correct so you should give up on your theism.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:51:53 PM No.16696140
>>16696134
I'm agnostic but personally lean towards atheism.
The author of the article is a theist steelmaning atheism. He's mostly but not entirely sure god exists
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:54:30 PM No.16696142
>>16696131 (OP)
>God would this would not that
Yeah because if an all-powerful Creator exists you would know what it would or would not do.
Empirical science cannot ever prove or disprove the existence of a Creator. There is a reason why religious text spams "faith" page after page.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:55:46 PM No.16696144
>>16696142
inferences can be made
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:58:41 PM No.16696149
>>16696142
>"Here are my reasons on why you should give up thinking reasonably when it comes to god!"
You are contradicting yourself
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6/12/2025, 5:04:12 PM No.16696153
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>>16696131 (OP)

>Evolution itself is quite surprising on theism.

You are making a classical flawed assumption here ... the average limited human perspective being applied to a hypothetical deity. Why the fuck would such an entity even bother with criteria such as "design". A divine clockmaker?! Laughable! If you wanna argue the existence or non-existence of a god better start thinking like one ...
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:08:14 PM No.16696156
>>16696153
Your post is a limited human perspective too, so I'll just reject it.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:08:45 PM No.16696157
>>16696156
based
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:33:50 PM No.16696171
>>16696144
Inferences can only be made on things that have limits.
For the limitless no inference can be made because the possibilities are, limitless.