If you tell me that a neutron becomes a proton plus something else is like telling me that a dog transforms into a cat plus a bird.
A lot of things in particle physics are like this. Some kind of fucking magic we are supposed to accept.

You're perfectly content when the eggs you eat exit your body as seminal fluid, but you're disturbed by a neutron becoming a proton by ejecting a neutrino and an electron?

>>16696322
Because there is a well defined chemical process that explains it, it is not just entry and exit magic.
But you tell me that a particle equals another patricle plus energy plus a neutrino or whatever, but there is not process. Is just in and out magic.

>>16696336
>it is not just entry and exit magic.

Same as quantum physics abandon whatever intuition you have, it’s a whole different world with its own set of rules, if you try relate it to something you’re familiar with you’ll fail.

And yes there is a well defined process that explains it, it’s called quarks and elementary particle physics.

A neutron is just a proton plus electron

>>16696364
A double cheese burger is just two open faced soft tortilla tacos facing each other.

Two can play this game.

>>16696320 (OP)
It's worth remembering that subatomic models are incredibly abstract. It's a world that's essentially impossible to observe in any way we can relate to our own senses, so everything is built on the assumptions of other models. There's a non-trivial chance our current ideas of how it all works are completely wrong, it's just we've yet to come up with something better.

>>16696364

>A neutron is just a proton plus electron

What is counterintuitive here again? A proton-electron pair is simply a differentiated neutron. Why the neutrino is rather the question here ... that little shit might just tell us something.

>>16696740
I am just guessing, but maybe its something like neutrons have a little bit of binding energy, when it decays the neutrino is that binding energy accounted for

>>16696746

Kinda just buds off, yeah. Now we know that electrons for some funny reason prefer to stay in distinct "orbits" ... if we now call the orbit of an electron in a hydrogen atom "orbit one" then we might assume further that a neutron is in a situation where the "electron" (if it still counts as such but whatevs) is in "orbit zero". As we know that some force keeps the proton and the electron apart the neutrino must logically relate somehow to said force ... damn, I think we are onto something here ... :)

>>16696375
Imagine the amount of culinary knowledge we could learn with a Large Burger Collider.

>>16696340
>try to constrain a spiral to two dimensions
What even is total internal reflection?

>>16696336
>but there is not process.
Ther process is conservation laws.
Theres things in physics that get conserved, no law forbids transformations as long as these things get conserved. Like energy, charge, linear momentum, etc.

Isn't that just the same how lead transforms into gold in a particle accelerator by losing three protons? Just like an atoms is made of particles, protons and neutrons are made of even smaller particles called quarck. And you can turn a proton into a neutron by assembling those quarks in different ways.

Isn't that just the same how lead transforms into gold in a particle accelerator by losing three protons? Just like an atom is made of particles, protons and neutrons are made of even smaller particles called quarcks. And you can turn a proton into a neutron by arranging those quarks in different ways.

>>16697278
no