Scientifically speaking, is gooning bad for you?

>>16703046 (OP)
It's as bad as any other dopamine-abusing activity and then some. Lowers attention span, worsens memory etc, while also having other downsides like warping one's view of sexuality and leading to the consumption of progressively more extreme forms of pornography.
Can have physical ramifications like deathgrip and peyronies too (don't type that up into google images unless you want to see dicks being surgically cut open)

Don't know, but I do know that nofap can lead to bouts of making up random shit and falling for low resolution facebook memes

>>16703054
That's because it's a meme. Just jerk off without porn every couple days

>>16703046 (OP)
There are so many negative side effects of gooning/jerking off (most of them being associated with porn) that I cannot even recall all of them. A few that did stick with me, however, is that jerking off has a nearly identical chemical signature in the brain as cocaine. That and the grey matter in your brain (the stuff that sends signals from place to place) is REDUCED from jerking off (again, all of the consequences mostly being amplified by porn).

It's basically in the same league as alcohol, cocaine, heroin, etc. Admittedly on a smaller level, but still far more than enough to fuck up your life if you do it enough (which even a little can suffice in such production of personal catastrophe).

Don't do it, bro, just jerk off using your imagination. Easily eliminates at least half of the potential consequences.

Also don't look at porn even if you don't jerk off (this also includes weird """SFW""" drawings and goontok posts on social media where you might not necessarily jerk off, which is why I mention this)

>>16703047
How much does it effect attention span? Is there any research done on it?

>>16703091
I don't know that they've measured the attention span reduction in seconds, but people who regularly consume porn have smaller overall brain volume and fewer connections between the prefrontal cortex and striatum. To give you an idea ADHD is caused by an abnormally small prefrontal cortex

>>16703091
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-328X/5/3/388

>>16703110
Thanks.

>>16703046 (OP)
kill yourself

What is gooing?

>>16703138
Jerking off for a really long time. Also just jerking off can have the same negative effects (largely a consequence of porn but also caused by jerking off even on its own)

>>16703138
Turning masturbation into a hobby. Involves jerking off for hours a day and often with multiple computer monitors bought for the sole purpose of gooning

>>16703140
>>16703145
Isn't that how everyone does it? Usually it takes couple of minutes, but sometimes if the porn is not that good, I spent like an hour searching for multiple videos while stroking my pipe. Never knew it had a name lol

>>16703138
Edging as long as possible without cumming.

Everybody always says there's a bunch of negative effects associated with masturbation but no one ever posts any studies. It's all baseless claims and spiritual/religious mumbo jumbo. I don't think there's any problem as long as you don't end up getting into super degenerate and harmful shit.
I personally wish I had it in me to masturbate more, my porn game backlog keeps getting bigger but I only really get the drive to coom every couple of days.

>>16703108
This is textbook correlation vs. causation shit. Wow, people with poor impulse control jerk off more? Omg porn gives you poor impulse control! No you daft muppet

>>16703110
>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574
This just proves an association. You don't know if the difference is caused by the behavior or if these people were already predisposed.

>>16703046 (OP)
>>16703320
>>16703543 (appeal to ignorance by the way)
Enjoy hemoroids and not being able to sit normally like a freak.

>In this paper, we describe the hypothesis that frequent and lengthy masturbation is a predisposing factor for development of hemorrhoids.
>3. Rationale and Discussion
>During masturbation, blood supply to the perineum increases. On the other hand, muscles of the buttocks and perineum contracts strongly. These two factors lead to impaired venous return and consequently congestion of blood in the anal cushions and engorgement of the hemorrhoid plexus, a phenomenon which is called pelvic congestion (7, 10). The repetition of this process over the time leads to easier formation of hemorrhoids, theoretically. Also, in people who have lengthy masturbation sessions and do not allow themselves ejaculate easily during masturbation, the process of impaired venous return and congestion of blood will be intensified.

https://brieflands.com/articles/thrita-18137

>>16703046 (OP)
All research shows that it's either neutral at worst and good for prostate and heart health at best.
There is the concept of porn addiction but evidence for it isn't very strong and it's difficult to know if it's particular to porn or just like any other addiction like social media or gaming addiction.
If it's interfering with your everyday life and you can't stop it despite knowing this this then by definition it's a disorder.
When evidence for something is this inconclusive it's reasonable to assume that even if it is bad for you, it's not to a large enough degree that would make it obvious.
My personal opinion is that it's normal and overall neutral as far as health outcomes go and most issues stem from people overthinking it and guilt tripping themselves over it. I also want to remind people that thinking that abstinence will be a transformative personal growth is magical thinking which is maladaptive behavior and can be a prodrome of actual disorders.
If you're doing it, are happy with it and it's not interfering with your life continue doing it and don't pay it any mind.
If it's interfering with your life in a bad way then yes it's bad for you. If you goon all day instead of going out then yes you need to do something about it. At least consider regulating it if you don't want to abstain completely.

Everyone who gives you a simple yes or no answer is usually either an idiot or has an agenda. Use your fucking brain and decide what works for you personally.

I always feel like shit after I coooom too much. It fucks with my energy and social skills. There’s something to it.

Regardless of it's physiological effects nobody can convince me it's healthy for someone to watch thousands of hardcore pornographic videos with the most extreme forms of sexual expression imaginable (bondage, violence, cuckoldry, weird hentai stuff, gangbangs, incest etc) before even kissing a member of the opposite sex and have it be healthy. Because that's what happens to the average person today.

>>16703046 (OP)
The /x/ consensus, (assuming no biblefags), is that:
-Not masturbating is neutral
-Cooming is bad (bleeding energy)
-Gooning is good (generating energy)
That is of course if you are disciplined enough to masturbate without cumming.

/sci/ on the otherhand generally tell people to coom for prostate health. Doing so without restraint will drain your vital energy which is much more detrimental.
The West has demonized cum as a filthy fluid when it is in fact more precious than blood. This narrative along with the wide spread of porn is an attempt to drain the undisciplined mass of vitality.

>>16704016
>biblefags
Ironic considering Christians can't become fags, since you become a fag when God gives you over to the vile lusts of your own heart. See Romans 1.

>>16704016
>-Gooning is good (generating energy)
Correct, but according to the infrasexuals over at /x/ this is to be avoided like the plague. They're mistaken, of course, but one still needs to be very careful when generating sexual energy as it is extremely powerful and can in the long run fry your spine or brain if you don't transmute it properly.

Excessive masturbation can cause lymphangiosclerosis and skin injury.

As a general rule of thumb, if the skin on your dick is starting to turn red and painful or you suddenly notice a giant hard tube running along your dick, maybe give it a rest for a few days.

Why do people only single out masturbation? Isn't having sex pretty much the same

>>16704012
>Regardless of it's physiological effects nobody can convince me it's healthy for someone to watch thousands of hardcore pornographic videos with the most extreme forms of sexual expression imaginable (bondage, violence, cuckoldry, weird hentai stuff, gangbangs, incest etc) before even kissing a member of the opposite sex and have it be healthy. Because that's what happens to the average person today.
This is probably going to come across as a weird take, but I feel like the fetishes involved aren't necessarily the issue so much as whether the people depicted in the porn are being objectified or not.

To use bondage vs vanilla porn as an example, I'd rather a virgin consume bondage porn featuring various forms of concern between the partners like preparation, safe words, aftercare, continuous explicit consent, and boundaries than a random fuck the pizza delivery guy scenario where the characters barely talk to each other and are basically just using each other as glorified sex toys.

What fetishes people develop aren't the problem so much as dehumanization, objectification, and teaching bad habits. Porn exists on a spectrum just like any medium. There's responsible shit and then there's shit like 50 Shades that gets shit from the BDSM community for being a godawful representation of their shit and healthy relationships generally.

>>16705383
>lymphangiosclerosis and skin injury
Peyronies too, and minor injuries and a lack of proper post-nut cleaning can lead to UTI

>>16703046 (OP)
No dumbass, masturbating isn't bad for you and I jerk off once a week regularly.

You have to be a fucking idiot to think it does. Don't fall for propaganda, if you need to do it then do it, no shame in it.

>>16703046 (OP)
considering just masturbation (no porn, just imagination) then no, its not. unless you do it so much that it affects your regular life or you hurt your dick

>>16705391
I wouldn't say at all that objectification is the main problem. Detachment from reality is.

>>16705520
>Detachment from reality is
That's a personal problem. Escapism is a fundamental component of media and always has been. It's not exclusive to porn.

If you meant setting unreasonable expectations, I'd still say that's a personal problem not exclusively related to porn.

Also grounded porn exists, even grounded fetish porn. Hell, there's even educational porn. And I don't mean student and teacher shit. I mean porn literally created to help educate on sex and relationships or on how to engage with specific fetishes safely and enjoyably.