Explain why I am wrong - /sci/ (#16703632) [Archived: 897 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:47:19 PM No.16703632
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>laws of physics other sciences are consistent
>the concept of "random" does not exist in reality, it is a human concept when something is too complex or difficult to predict
>magic and other supernatural things do not exist
>because of these, any repeatable and identical physical scenario will act out the same way according to rules. i.e. identical bombs will explode in a vaccum the exact same way everytime
>life (incl. humans) are made up of dna and other things that determine phenotypes and genotypes
>based on nature and nurture aspects of life (dna, experiences, where youre born, etc), all your actions are determined based on your dna and brain
>brain is very complex and not fully understood, but again not random or magic. it functions according to theorhetically trackable and predictable processes
>all matter in the universe was condensed in a singular point, that rapidly expanded in what we call the big bang, until the universe rips itself apart and condense again in a neverending cycle
Conclusion:
-Big Bang happens the same way every single time
-We are like algorithms, ai, or computers in the sense that we behave according to the dna and other aspects (known or unknown) that are not random, magic or supernatural. Thus, free will is imaginary.
-We come into creation the same way in every cycle of the big bang and have lived this exact life countless times, and when we die we awaken, born into the same life in the next cycle.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:30:00 PM No.16703648
>>16703632 (OP)
You're assuming the conclusion.
>Things are predictable.
>Unpredictable or unpredicted things must be because some kind of lawful interaction between variables too hidden and complex to know and/or understand (yet).
>It must be so because it can't be otherwise.
>The universe is just a cause-effect machine okay!
No it's not okay. Do better.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:42:22 PM No.16703661
You can ask LLM
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:13:41 PM No.16703678
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>>16703648
>things happen due to processes whether or not we can understand or predict them
>the universe is a cause-effect machine
>it must be so because it cant be otherwise
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:16:43 PM No.16703680
>>16703632 (OP)
>the concept of "random" does not exist in reality, it is a human concept when something is too complex or difficult to predict
Bell experiments eliminated hidden variables.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:46:05 PM No.16704403
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>>16703632 (OP)
>magic and supernatural things do not exist
That's wrong. You also cannot prove that through natural means, which is just absurd and retarded to think you can.

>any repeatable and identical physical scenario will act out the same way according to rules. i.e. identical bombs will explode in a vaccum the exact same way everytime
There are no identical bombs though. Sure, you might have a bunch of 2000lb bombs, but the makeup and the composition of the explosive and the hull materials themselves aren't ever going to be identical.

>based on nature and nurture aspects of life (dna, experiences, where youre born, etc), all your actions are determined based on your dna and brain
This is just stupid and unprovable. Also DNA is more complex than the most complex software programs and longest books written by man and all the rest of it combined. Something full of information and complexity like that doesn't spontaneously generate. It's even a law of information.

>all matter in the universe was condensed in a singular point, that rapidly expanded in what we call the big bang, until the universe rips itself apart and condense again in a neverending cycle
That's literally just your religious belief, you can't prove that scientifically and it's not even logical or sensible. Even common sense tells you that's not possible. But you believe it anyway on blind faith because it's the state-funded creation myth which they falsely claim is science and it's reinforced in mass media. Also violates laws of matter and energy.

>Big Bang happens the same way every single time
Never happened, never proven to happen. The "proof" for it is circumstantial at best and doesn't prove what they assert it proves.

>We are like algorithms, ai, or computers in the sense that we behave according to the dna and other aspects
Maybe you are, but not me.

>free will is imaginary
This is just a cope for people who don't want to accept accountability and responsibility for their choices.