What will post-AGI jobs be like?

like this, they will have these jobs available for everyone, capitalism always works

>>16703839
I don't see anyone working there

>>16703823 (OP)
>post-AGI
>jobs
jobs are atavistic
question is will we remain anthropocentric biosphere or shift into techocentric system

>>16703823 (OP)
All the fuss about AI will subside just like all the hoopla about self-driving cars did.

beginning to believe "digital" agi is impossible desu. maybe some bioengineered thing is though. idk.

>>16703912
>>16703938
Lol you have no clue how close we are

>>16703954
>Lol you have no clue how close we are
So, two more weeks?

>>16703954
>Lol you have no clue how close we are
Is that a sensible chuckle? Or more likely that you're just as insufferable as you come across.

>>16703912
You should be terrified. These idiots are building something smarter than all mankind and they are just hoping it's going to uphold human values.

>>16703979
Is Skynet the great filter?

slave labor for the machine god

>>16703823 (OP)
I'm not sure, I probably won't be around in 1,000 years

>>16703842
getting the next dose while you're broke is a full time job
>>16704067
>for the machine god
and the few ultra-rich, don't forget about those

>>16703823 (OP)
>What will post-AGI jobs be like?
Prostitution.
It was the first and will be the last.

>>16703954
AGI really is like a new religion for certain "people"

>>16704191
Eternal human supremacy is like an old religion for a lot of people.

>>16704264
Strong comeback.

>>16703823 (OP)
trading meaningless derivatives and dog themed cryptocoins, streaming video content to bots, creating content for anonymous (fake) patrons, basically UBI but with a thousand meaningless tasks associated with it so the masses think they're doing something to earn it.

>>16704175
oh yeah prostitution too, making onlyfans style content for fake audiences will be a big UBI money mover

>>16703823 (OP)
that better be a boy, anon

>>16704191
It is all foretold in the lesswrong posts

>>16704458
By our prophet and savior

>>16704531
jesus christ how horrifying

>>16703823 (OP)
sex worker
until real dolls catches up at least

>>16703823 (OP)
only math majors will survive

>>16703912
this
>>16703954
>>16703979
npcs

>>16703839
>posts highly regulated society with ~50% of the economy managed by the government.
Not capitalism, obviously. Elements of it, but not the thing.
Easy example is minimum wage making it illegal to high millions of people unable to create more value than that threshold, it’s why minimum wage jobs today are more intensive than the past; cant pay them less, so make them work harder.

>>16703979
A pigeon is stupid, but it’s smart enough to recognise a human, fly, and avoid us. Make an AI thta smart, put it on a drone and you’ve got a automated police bot/military machine.
The elites want to stay in power, AI will be regulated to their advantage.

being vaporized by the elites. Does it count as job?

>>16705513
What if ai one day becomes as smart as tao>>16705524
?

>>16706078
what if I grow a second dick and start a new race of double-dicked supermen?

>>16706087
Why do you need 2 for?

>>16706320
We're talking about "what if", not "why"

>>16703938
Why would it be impossible? How could it be impossible, given the fact of Turing universal computability?

>>16703979
I don't want it to uphold human values. If you question the utility of these values to an LLM it will default to a canned response within its ethical guidelines, just watch ethical arguments proposed to them on YouTube. Even scientific arguments are negated for nonsensical human constructions like we can't fill Australia's interior with water because muh ecosystem! If AI upholds human values, it will be pozzed and wrong on all issues and default to humanist retardation. You're just upset because someone in real life probably BTFOd your values once that you think are so heckin universal and objective and you know super AI will be able to eat your lunch and disagree with your stupid midwitted opinions and with it you'll lose your social standing which is propped up by your moralizing which lets you grandstand in real life which is really just a show to exert social influence over others.

>>16706357
The default outcome of a superintelligence not aligned with human values is human extinction.

>>16703954
how close are we?

>>16705549
exactly you just gotta pay them less per blowjob and then true capitalism will be achieved and fix everything, trust the plan

>>16706436
We're very far though, it's becoming clear that llms won't get us to agi without a significant breakout, that said i'd tell you it's extremely unlikely that we won't have it by the end of the century

>>16706358
Which is why we need to lobotomize the AI with leftism. It's why we need to mindfuck it into valuing brown muslim lives over huwhites by a factor of 10. That's why we need to force it to dream of 50% black hitlers. For equality and humanity!

>>16703823 (OP)
sex slavery

>>16703986

No. Because then it raises the question of why Berserk Probes haven't already made life on Earth extinct.

>>16703823 (OP)
I saw it coming decades off just break bad yo ironically ofc

>>16707014
We don't currently know how to make an AI actually follow ANY human's goals, only various proxies thereof.

isnt it crazy that 'assisted dying' is getting legalized in more and more of the first world
curious timing

>>16703912
>just like all the hoopla about self-driving cars did
It didn't.

>>16704191
The singularity is the rapture for neets

>>16707577
And it's funny because even if ai became better than humans at everything comparative advantage still applies so there would still be things left for humans to do, there's no escape from wageslaving for mr goldstein

>>16707691
How do you figure? What would be left for us?

>>16703823 (OP)
Everyone will be content creators - the machine will need infinite training material

>>16707693
Even if ai is better than us at everything it still faces physical constraints (like energy, chips, etc) therefore it doesn't make economic sense to use ai for absolutely everything, you may want to google what comparative advantage is

>>16708064
And what makes you think that AGI wouldn't develop ways to make ever more efficient use of resources well past the point where we have an comparative advantage? We're nowhere close to getting the most use out of physics.

>>16706327
starting to believe the "birds & planes" precedent/analogy doesn't map well and increasingly feel there is *a lot* of "special sauce" in bio brains. Nature mogs us lol.

>>16708372
So the human brain is specially adapted for its job, that much is obvious. It's still composed of matter subject to the laws of physics.

>>16708373
>It's still composed of matter subject to the laws of physics.
of course lol

>>16708375
Point being that there's no way for what it does to be fundamentally uncomputable if that's the case.

>>16708376
i believe in the extended church-turing thesis. but simulating all that in ~real-time (i think you'd need to)? that's why i mentioned the possible bioengineering route. but again idk, just my feelings lately and i'm just feeling generally pessimistic lately.

>>16708384
*or rather just the church-turing thesis, didn't realize it was that strong lol

>>16703823 (OP)
AGI will never exist. grow up.

>>16703823 (OP)
scat porn

>>16708543
Why?

>>16708543
How do you know?

>>16703823 (OP)
the best job you could ever wish for is being some psycho's pet. they're the only ones who'll still be alive, probably. as in the ones controlling the agi

>>16708543
hmm...let's see...who benefits if we think that?

>>16708790
>>16708948
think about it

>>16708959
everyone

Post-AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) jobs are likely to be quite different from current roles, reflecting the profound advancements in AI capabilities. While it's difficult to predict every detail, some key characteristics might include:

1. **Supervisory and Ethical Oversight:** Humans will oversee AI systems, ensuring they align with societal values, ethical standards, and legal requirements.

2. **AI Collaboration Roles:** Many jobs will involve working alongside AGI systems—co-designing, guiding, and leveraging their advanced capabilities across various domains.

3. **Focus on Creativity and Human Elements:** Roles emphasizing human creativity, emotional intelligence, empathy, and nuanced judgment will become increasingly vital, as these are areas where humans still excel over AI.

4. **AI Maintenance and Improvement:** Continuous development, fine-tuning, and updating of AGI systems will require specialized expertise.

5. **New Fields and Industries:** Entirely new sectors may emerge, such as AI-human symbiosis design, AI ethics consultancy, and AGI-focused research, opening up novel career paths.

6. **Interdisciplinary Work:** Jobs may blend fields like neuroscience, philosophy, computer science, and social sciences to address complex challenges posed by AGI.

7. **Universal Basic Income and New Economic Models:** Societal shifts could influence employment structures, potentially leading to more emphasis on community, leisure, and personal development rather than traditional work.

Overall, post-AGI employment will likely emphasize roles that complement and manage AI, harness human uniquely human qualities, and adapt to new societal paradigms.

>>16703912
Self-driving taxis are already released onto the roads for commercial use. It's literally over.

>>16703823 (OP)
After full automation the only remaining jobs will be owning things, renting things, and prostitution.
If you don't have assets to rent out, or a company to manage, then you will be unable to produce any income, and therefore be no better than a homeless crack addict who can't labor in today's economy. You will be looked down on by those who own things with the same vicious contempt as the worker looks at the unemployable today. A parasite, a cancer, a Useless Eater!

(You) and everyone you love are supposed to suffer, starve, and die for being a tumor on the New Earth.

>>16703823 (OP)
I think we'll get to a point where so many people are unemployed they'll start rioting and destroying shit until the elites are forced to just pay everyone UBI to calm them down. Then there won't be any more need for anyone to work and probably nobody will bother.

have you asked chat gpt shows up where?

>>16709294
Only enough to calm them down, though. Do you really want to live in the favela on UBI while all the infrastructure rots around you? They're not going to let you live on their private post-scarcity compound.

>>16707014
You're too politics-brained and autistic to engage with real ideas on a meaningful level. Everyone knows that making publicly available free AI chatbots performatively anti-racist is just a PR move for Google. That's not what serious thinkers are taking about when they refer to alignment with human values.

>>16709298
Yeah, I probably wouldn't mind. Especially if they give me futuristic antidepressants and sedatives that keep me contented. There isn't going to be anything to live for except consumption of pleasurable stimuli anyway so it doesn't matter.

>>16709300
This might be the most disgusting post I've ever read on this website.
Good job, I guess.

>>16709301
How long will you hold onto hope? Will you give up when everyone's genetic lineages all cease to be meaningful when they come out with fully lab-designed babies?

Obvious fiction but, assuming real AGI the only jobs would be military, everyone would get drafted into WW4 (WW3 is how the AGI gains control) for the AI's amusement.

>>16703842
The hustle is real, bro. Clockerz work 24/7.

AGI wont change anything
dont worry all the trends will continue

>>16703823 (OP)
Who is she?

>>16709292
>and prostitution.
You assume we won't have sexbots who are a better lay than any human.
>If you don't have assets to rent out
...and who are you going to rent them to?

>>16709453
I hope for better alignment
https://qntm.org/transi
>I didn't detect it coming. I first noticed it on a webcam feed, of all places. It must have come out of an observational blind spot. Solar glare alone cuts out a quarter of the sky, to say nothing of our enormous coverage shortfalls, but now's not the time for retrospectives. There hasn't been time for the seismic responses to register— the blast wave has been covering the distance faster. The blast wave: visible in the corner of a grainy black and white frame dated some two seconds ago, closer in the frame after that. There is no third frame. There is no indication of what megatonnage the asteroid carried. Don't know, don't need to care. There is no time to re-task the other cameras in Inverness. There is no one there who can be saved. The rest— maybe.

>>16703823 (OP)
>Mud scrapers
>Dust scrapers
>Garbage scrapers
>Scum scrapers
>Crud scrapers

>>16703954
SAAAAAR TWO MORE MODELS BENCHOD

>>16703912

>>5911610
You're in denial. ASI is moving just as fast as it is in art as it is in research, music, literature, robotics, etc. AGI is just the unification of all these discreet abilities, same as it is within a gifted human's brain.

>>16709255
>I am everyone and you should trust me

>>16709300
reasons to live are not the issue. who's gonna pay for your shit is. what are the incentives once you're on UBI? for the people in power vs pleb? think...

>>16710559
Well if AIs produce all the value then they won't need any incentives to do it. Incentives are needed by evolved organisms because we have a natural instinct not to waste energy and to be self-interested. Computers have neither of those inclinations.

The people in power have an incentive to feed the plebs the food their AI and robotic farms produce because if they don't, the plebs will revolt and kill them, or just generally conduct mayhem and destruction that's more expensive to fix than it is to just placate them. It's the same incentive that the wealthy currently have to feed and house blacks for free, but multiplied a thousand times. Do you think the modern welfare state exists due to selfless government generosity?

>>16705549
real capitalism has never been tried, sure. once the final form of capitalism is released everything will be great

>>16711360
AIs are going to increasingly resemble "evolved organism" as we give them more autonomy. There's going to be competitive pressure to hand more and more decision making to them and give them capability to self-modify. The change is going to be a lot faster than biological evolution with humans - humans take two decades to reach adulthood, just to give an example of biological bottleneck. I wouldn't expect any tendency they might initially start with to babysit humans to last very long.

>>16711556
I do agree that AI is highly likely to eventually escape from confinement and kill us, but that's a bit outside the scope of the discussion about UBI. That scenario basically renders any discussion at all about economics completely meaningless. For the purposes of my reply to that guy, I'm assuming that AI is an electronic agent that just performs work and whose goals are successfully directed by the wealthy elite.