Quantum entanglement - /sci/ (#16704469) [Archived: 803 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:12:49 PM No.16704469
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Tell me /sci/ brothers- is quantum entanglement having one red ball and and one blue ball in sealed boxes, and realizing upon opening your box and seeing a red ball that the other box must contain a blue ball, or is there really some sort of spooky action at a distance occuring?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:13:48 PM No.16704472
>>16704469 (OP)
It’s a tensor product of unitary representations. That’s all you need to know. No red ball blue ball shit required. Study math.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:19:02 PM No.16704478
>>16704469 (OP)
>or is there really some sort of spooky action at a distance occuring?
Quantity conservation
1-1=0
So when you measure 1, the other must be -1
Its universal so units dont matter
In your case the conserved quantity is that a red ball and a blue ball must exist
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:19:11 PM No.16704479
>>16704472
anon, math is not reality
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Cult of Passion
6/21/2025, 8:20:17 PM No.16704481
>>16704472
>Study math.
...until you contract "Multi-way Mind"(Schizophrenia).
https://youtu.be/pYqoMNXhLA0
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:26:33 PM No.16704484
>>16704469 (OP)
The former, but the fact that quantum systems can remain entangled while separated by a moderate time and distance is significant.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:47:36 PM No.16704497
>>16704484
>while separated by a moderate time and distance is significant.
What part of time and distance changes the balls?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:58:20 PM No.16704510
>>16704484
So does the blue ball only become the blue ball when the red ball is observed forced into its red state by wavefunction collapse or were they always the red and blue balls and we just didn't know which was which till we checked?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:44:24 PM No.16704551
>>16704479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unreasonable_Effectiveness_of_Mathematics_in_the_Natural_Sciences
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:33:51 AM No.16704666
>>16704510
This
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 9:08:10 AM No.16704834
>>16704469 (OP)
Good explanation here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21uFCUFzrmI
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:37:11 PM No.16705180
>>16704510
This
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:59:31 PM No.16705192
>>16704472
>study formalisms before the real phenomenon they are made to mimic

That's never a good idea. People who study "pure math" are retards who contribute little to society while thinking they are gods among men
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:20:39 PM No.16705202
>>16705192
Yeah, studying real phenomena by silly analogies with blue and red balls is much better.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:56:44 AM No.16706088
>>16704469 (OP)
It's a quantum property. Your red and blue balls and boxes and shit are classical information extraction. Anyway, just study the math, it's not that difficult.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:14:04 AM No.16706101
>>16706088
>It's a quantum property
Sure but its just some property conservation. Usually angular momentum, you know one you know the other
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:24:50 AM No.16706111
>>16704497
Entanglement only works as long as the system isn't perturbed. It's why entanglement experiments are designed to immediately measure properties of entangled particles rather than try to store them. I think the record for longest time between entangled measurements is only something like a few hundred nanoseconds. It's very difficult to keep anything on a quantum scale "isolated" from perturbation.

>>16704510
Yes
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:31:41 AM No.16706146
>>16706101
You in fact do not know jack shit about the other. You only learn you have an entangled state when the measurements are compared. Before that comparison you have pure noise.