Thread 16705934 - /sci/ [Archived: 758 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:53:23 PM No.16705934
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Did you get the same vibe doing academic research? I relate to this. I enjoy learning on my own free time about things that interest me in the moment rather than chasing publications and playing the rat game.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:33:06 PM No.16705958
>>16705934 (OP)
100%.

At some point during Covid I realized I was reading papers I didn't care about in order to write papers I cared about even less (given that I wasn't the one deciding the topics). I realized that, were I to stay in academia, this would likely go on for some time - and for what? Some publications, some title, some external validation telling wider society that I'm "smart"?

So I left. Like you, I still enjoy learning about things I find interesting, just not research for its own sake (or the academic rat race).
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:52:21 PM No.16705973
These sorts of posts always give way to anti-intellectualism and anti-academia posters. I'm gonna put on my /pol/ hat and say that there's probably some stupid coordinated effort to either de-incentivize people from going into academia or allow some proliferation of conspiracy tards
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:10:30 PM No.16705990
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>>16705973
>anti-intellectualism and anti-academia
>and
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:14:36 PM No.16705994
>>16705934 (OP)
Yeah exactly. I have had very little choice about what I've worked on during my PhD. And worst of all the decision about who gets to work on exciting relevant things and who becomes a dumping ground for work nobody wants to do is made by my nemesis (supervisor), a man who decided he didn't like me because I'm not a weirdo nerd effective altruist transsexual like the rest of the freaks I'm forced to work alongside.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:13:00 AM No.16706053
>>16705973
Some of it is. Literally every post about my field in the /scg/ guide was written by me, and with the explicit goal of deterring the kind of people that post here from going into it.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:35:54 AM No.16706069
>>16705934 (OP)
>wah wah poor me wah wah
This dude is such a baby. This is the same coddled faggot who resented his parents for giving him a million dollars and later complained about how only 4 other people or something would care about the math research he did. Best not to listen to anything academic dropouts hopped up on acid would say.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:47:01 AM No.16706079
>>16705934 (OP)
Most of us aren’t good enough. Many such cases.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:51:44 AM No.16706085
>>16705958
>and for what?
To crush your spirit. Never forget that academia was established by Vatican and is controlled by jesuits to this very day. A more healthy alternative cannot come fast enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VdyrlGnpPM
Gwaihir
6/24/2025, 1:02:59 AM No.16706092
>>16705958
Fact of the matter is. You don't need permission from a bunch of fragile egos gatekeeping credentialism. That's boomer tier thinking.

Just make shit and move past them. These are the same idiots that think you can't travel back into memory and pull new information that wasn't recorded in the original recording of the memory with evolved understanding. It's Toddler's first memory as a solid state nonsense.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:05:46 AM No.16706093
>>16706092
Ok so they are reimtdrpreting memories based on the first person perception of it

For example if am remembering table and am looking at a table
Gwaihir
6/24/2025, 1:10:58 AM No.16706097
If science is truth, and it can actually record a solid state history, then when geocentric flat earth was the prevailing scientific model, then the universe was actually geocentric with a flat earth.

When Galileo's model eclipsed that, the universe transformed at the moment forward and became reflective of his model

When newton came onto the scene, then the universe changed once again and became Newtonian

And then when Einstein revolutionized physics with relativity, the universe transformed into a relative model from that moment forward and none of the insights are capable of having any retrocausal impact, because new those old memories are fixed

It's peak hubris
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:13:39 AM No.16706099
>>16705973
>anti-intellectualism and anti-academia
Two types of this. Sour grapers who couldn't get in but feel like they're just as qualified and alumni who feel like almost no one there was particularly qualified.
Gwaihir
6/24/2025, 1:14:01 AM No.16706100
On the contrary, I am staying that you can literally travel back into a memory of your past, with your understanding now, and you can pull new information out of that old memory based on the evolution and maturity of you mental framework now, which wasn't originally recorded in the narrative that you gave to the past event when you recorded it as solid state memory.
Gwaihir
6/24/2025, 1:16:53 AM No.16706103
>>16705973
Anti-intellectualism is presuming you have an objective take that isn't subject to change with the evolution of your mindset.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:23:27 AM No.16706109
>>16706103
That's not it at all. Intellectualism is enjoying the game of footnotes and references. Anti is finding it a waste of time.
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Gwaihir
6/24/2025, 1:27:54 AM No.16706113
>>16706109
Based! never reading the citations section-guy!
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:36:40 AM No.16706116
>>16706113
Personally I'm a game enjoyer lol
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:14:12 PM No.16707178
>>16705934 (OP)
I read scientific publications and write educational science stuff for my own website and find it a lot more engaging than when I was in school going through textbooks
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:01:06 PM No.16707187
>>16706069
>t. retard studying useless things nobody cares about, to get grants to study them in ever increasing detail
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:29:20 PM No.16707195
>>16705973
I'm an engineer, not a scientist. I come here from time to time because /g/ is filled with only software "engineers" or system administration enthusiasts.

Just wanted to say that scientists are gay fags and nobody takes you seriously or likes you and also your gay little club that you call "academia" is very cringe and seeing sciencefags putting on the serious hat and fighting senile and mentally ill as if it's some dangerous "anti-academia" and "anti-intellectualism" villain guild is very very funny.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:00:27 PM No.16707317
>Distilling and explaining concepts

This is called teaching, there is a place for that.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:28:43 PM No.16707337
>>16707317
nah bruv you don't understand, we look down on teachers around here
teachers are low IQ losers, he's a smarty guy not a teacher!
he needs a high status academic position where he can distill and explain, that has nothing to do with teaching!
where is the place in academic life for distillexplainers(not a teacher)? we have to find it!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:47:08 PM No.16707344
>>16707317
>lazily copying chapters from a textbook onto a blackboard
>assigning problems from the textbook
>this totally requires you to understand what you’re talking about
From personal experience, 90% of instructors are too lazy and risk-averse to structure a course in a way that resembles “distilling”. That course usually ends up with students whining about the course not following a prescribed book. Moreover, because a professor is usually so far in his understanding of the subject, they end up talking over the students’ heads. Believe me, if someone would offer me to take a graded graduate course with either the “textbook” instructor or the “reinvent the wheel” instructor, I’d pick the former. Because at least I can read the book to understand what the fuck is happening. The absolute majority of professors are hired for their publishing clout and not their teaching ability.