Does anybody here major in chemistry? How is it?

>>16707142 (OP)
depends what your goal is. a bachelors in chemistry is a great stepping stone for grad/med/law/nursing school, but a mediocre final degree

>>16707240
Completing a degree in hard science in higher education is no mediocre feat. Most people do not have a college education and a great deal of subjects don't pose a serious intellectual challenge.

>>16707283
Bro, its chemistry. Chemisty is just about how to make soap, literally, its hardly a science and relies on physics. They even reduced the math down to a brainlet highschool tier level to make it more accessable because its nothing but a meme

>>16707288
There is definitely more to chemistry than making soap, but sadly the incentive of capital in higher education means that our intellectual merits are captured by the aims of shareholders and corrupt governments. You may very well find yourself developing developing new brands of shampoo that no one truly needs but makes a line on a stock chart go upwards. You may find yourself working for a petrochemical company that rapes the Earth and oppresses nations for profit. You may find yourself developing chemical weapons in a covert lab. You may also find yourself developing new medicines for rare diseases so all is not lost.

>>16707303

>You may very well find yourself developing* new brands of shampoo that no one truly needs but makes a line on a stock chart go upwards.

Is this so bad? It pays the bills, it grants you a place in suburbia in a nice school district. A corporate salary, a prize won from many angles.

I do not think such an individual would find themselves cooking chlorates via electrolysis to arm guerrilla forces with mines and drones for a revolution.

Be honest, how much of chemistry is literally just pic related?

Bumping

I have a chem bachelor's degree. Landed a job in the medical device industry and am in they process of buying a house on a 1-acre lot before I hit age 30. I'm ahead of the engineers that I knew in college because engineering is oversaturated

>>16707303
We need soap, we need fuels, and nations need defending. Not everything we need feels good you fucking pinko.

>>16707729
How?

>yes goy the molecules are balls and sticks now be a good goym and fold me some proteins for my drug racketeering

>>16707240
>>16707288
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>>16707937
>I never got past second year undergrad

>>16707971
Well can you blame him? He got a lucrative proposal from a Jewish drug dealer which brought him a superior return on investment than finishing his major. That anon is now a happy meth cook who found himself a shortcut to the American dream.

>>16707142 (OP)
Fun
Good luck getting a job

>>16707303
I actually develop new types of soap to put into oil wells. It's not a bad gig.

>>16707142 (OP)
Got a chemistry degree, worked in a lab for a few years, got good at SOP writing, became a technical writer/trainer for a pharmaceutical company.

I don’t do chemistry anymore but it was a decent stopping stone. Shit pay though at the start but if you can learn other skills while you’re at it you might find something more valuable down the line.

>Pyros
>Druggies

only two types of people who major in chemistry desu

What's the Materials Science route like?

>>16708449
Depending where you live it's a great gig if you get into the semiconductor or energy materials field.

>>16707142 (OP)
Most chemists I’ve met are bitter mean-spirited weirdos with chips on their shoulder which comes from them not being smart enough and lacking the Mathematics skills to do Physics and they feel they have something to prove as a result. The people who go into Chemistry because they actually enjoy the field are usually cool tho. Imo Chemistry is gay and you should do Physics instead, or do Computer Science or a real Engineering

>>16708511
All my friends who studied chemistry do actually do chemistry as part of their jobs. None of my friends who studied physics do actually work at the physics factory.

>>16708449
You need a masters degree in materials science to find work as a materials science at minimum.

Yay more school

>>16708511
Screw physics, atleast I can work as a chemist out of school. The physicists can't even do that.

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>>16708514
Physicists seldom do Physics directly unless they go right back into Academia or work for a National Lab or something; but nearly all of the pioneering work for innovative technologies is done at the theoretical Physics level before trickling down to Engineers et al.
>t. Electrical Engineer

>>16708516
In my experience no one in STEM is more bitter than the hordes of straight A-students physics grads that saw themselves as elite astronomers and ended up lame Business Analytics jobs.

>>16708517
Possibly true. It sounds like the curse of the midwit playing out in real time. Either way, not your problem. Focus on yourself and your success. Other people are not your problem

>>16708517
Those straight A students are not smart at all. Because they all cheat, over 80% of stem degree majors cheat, there was a study done on it. They cheat by knowing the exact questions on future exams, they cheat by getting online solutions to homework and projects and programs and exams. It's a bad reality of the situation. If you ever have used a past exams or used online solutions to assignments then you are guilty of being part of this crowd.

Can anyone post the textbooks used in graduate school chemistry so I could buy them?

>>16708547
Studying by doing past tests is absolutely not cheating you retard

>>16708558
Modern physical organic chemistry byanslyn and Dougherty

Principles of Polymerization by Odian

Polymer physics by Rubinstein

Advanced inorganic chemistry or Organometallic chemistry by Crabtree

Advanced organic chemistry part A and B by Francis and Carey

Spectroscopic identification of organic compounds by Silverstein (classic!!)


Thats what I used in grad school. I can give other specific recs if interested
t. PhD chemist $140k/y

>>16708547
>there was a study done on it

Peak retard

>>16708697
Yes it is, dumbass.

You wouldn't have gotten your degree if you hadn't done that.

For example, I never cheated, never used any online resources and never used any past exams and I was able to graduate with a degree in pure physics. That makes me smarter than you, dumbass, by default, hah hah hah.

How's it feel knowing that you never would have graduated were it not for you cheating.

>>16708741
Who is the author of Advanced inorganic chemistry?

I don't want to start a thread about it but, do you chem fags know how to get nitrogen gas from potassium nitrate?

>>16708793
>That makes me smarter than you, dumbass, by default, hah hah hah.

Then how come your shit's all retarded, and you talk like a fag?

I'm a chem major, I did physics and maths though. currently run organic chem section for unknown organic compounds.

most of the shit here is true, never go full chem. Most chem grads I hire struggle with basic math and chemistry concepts.

>>16709315

Depends on the speciality you pick, you can go into biocehm or medicinal chemistry and be closer to drug discovery, forensics etc a lot of potential with higher degrees (MSc, PhD). Inorganic and Analytical is also a good approach analytical experts are desirable everywhere, espeically in the private sector for me it was not as fun as the other fields.
Applied, organic and physical probably the hardest specialities in chemistry, also has a lot of potential with higher degrees which will open a lot of doors. computational chemistry is also very popular latley.
The soap guy in the thread does have a point but it is closer chemical engineering.
Chemistry overall is always exciting, after you pickup some courses you will find your path.

>>16709311
Why would you want to do that? Nitrogen is cheap as shit.

>>16707142 (OP)
i am a 4th year grad student towards my PhD. I like it, currently doing a summer internship.
I really enjoy the research and being able to make a real-world impact.
>>16707351
a lot but it's simple algebra and unit conversions for most things
>>16708154
as a bachelor's desu
>>16708430
arguably still in chemistry. its such a broad field. chemistry is not just bench top lab work. Good chance the pharma company would not have selected you if you didn't have a good chemistry background

>>16708507
ICP-MS getting super low detection for semiconductors blows my mind man

>>16708741
nice work anon, how long have you been post grad - and where'd you end up role wise?

>>16707142 (OP)
I just graduated with a degree in chemistry a few months ago. It's a dogshit degree. Job opportunities are shit and pay is low. I wouldn't even recommend it if you are trying to get into med school. Your options if you fail to get in are very limited. Maybe if you love chemistry and are certain that you will get a PhD. But I thought I loved chemistry, and well, now I don't. And the PhD life doesn't seem great either. If you can even make it.

Honestly, STEM as a means to a comfortable, successful life is dead. Science was never all that great, tech really isn't doing so hot right now, engineering is saturated and the pay isn't that good, and math, well lol. Go into finance or business something.

I'm going for an MS in computer science which I hope will be better (fell for it again award).

>>16708511
Every physicist online has this weird boner for trying to 1 up other fields. You're making 20 bucks an hour just like every other retard that got duped into doing a science degree.

>>16709842
hahaha dude you have a bachelor's go be a lab monkey

>>16709856
No I'm starting a codemonkey job and getting my masters.

>>16709863
are you paying for your masters or tuition waived?

>>16709868
I haven't applied yet but I'll probably have to pay, which is fine since I don't have any debt from undergrad.