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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:42:56 AM No.16707651
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do smaller bodies (short men under 5'6) require lower amounts of testosterone to feel its effects like aggression compared to bigger bodies (men over 6 foot) which might require more to feel the effects?
and if so does that explain short male aggression? they need less test to become aggressive?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:46:35 AM No.16707695
>>16707651 (OP)
What *should* matter is serum testosterone levels: how much test in the blood per unit volume. Short people have less blood (if we control for bmi) which would mean the same raw amount of testosterone would result in higher serum levels.
However, because they are smaller, they might produce a smaller volume of test so it might even out.

I found this study:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513820301069?via%3Dihub

The full article is paywalled but, if the conclusion is taken at face value, the answer to your question is no.
There is no relationship between height and pre-workout serum testosterone. But there is a positive relationship with post-workout test. Meaning taller people have higher serum test than short people after a workout.
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6/26/2025, 10:43:51 AM No.16707797
>>16707651 (OP)

Effects do rely more heavily on receptor (or downstream pathway) sensitivity, not hormonal levels.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:19:19 PM No.16708693
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>>16707651 (OP)
There is a concept in pharmacology called "volume of distribution", look it up.
The effects of testosterone (or any other hormone) depend on its concentration in the blood and its receptor and downstream pathways, but there are several points to consider here:

1-Testosterone is fat soluble:
People with more fat have a larger volume of distribution for testosterone, so if you give the same dose of testosterone to two people, one thin and one obese, the thin person will have higher blood concentrations than the obese person. This is because testosterone is sequestered in fat tissue so its effective concentration in the blood decreases.

2-Testosterone is protein bound:
Testosterone does not exist as free hormone in the blood, instead about 54% of testosterone is bound to albumin while about 44% is bound to a protein called sex-hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and only about 2% is actually free and non-bound. Protein bound testosterone is not active, it is only the free testosterone which can exert physiologic effects. Variations in SHBG concentrations will affect the volume of distribution of testosterone (and also estradiol for that matter) and subsequently its serum concentrations.

3-Testosterone effects depend on its receptor:
Finally, even if you have the right concentrations, the end result will be determined by the androgen receptor and its downstream pathways which is mostly determined by genetics. So people with the exact same serum concentrations might have different responses.

4-Testosterone effects are regulated:
This is done by the Hypothalamus, Pituitary and Testis. If you have naturally low testosterone concentration without symptoms then it means that your androgen receptors are more sensitive to testosterone, conversely someone with high levels of testosterone (but again, no symptoms) might actually have lowered sensitivity to it.

TL;DR It depends on fatness, SHBG and genetics, not just body size.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:34:36 PM No.16708701
>short male aggression
I... don't think thats a real thing beyond stereotypes

I know that there's a (small) correlation between short stature and violent crime, but its mostly explainable by the fact that poverty is correlated with both (short height due to malnutrition). And as far as im aware that study was only done in the us
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:38:32 PM No.16708705
>>16708701
I believe in short males it is called microaggression
so short male microaggression
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:41:08 PM No.16708708
>>16708705
Kek

But my point still stands
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:43:09 PM No.16708711
>>16707651 (OP)
mtf trannies are the same height as average men
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:06:12 PM No.16708723
Yes. I have big balls but also big body so the propotion is somewhat average. I don't get the manlet rages.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:14:50 PM No.16708726
>>16707651 (OP)
Short answer: no. Hormone levels are weighted measurements.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:20:51 PM No.16708734
>>16708701
I'm a short male. It's very real. My evidenc is indirect and threefold. Firstly, I've experienced how flippantly I get treated by some women and men. I honestly don't give a shit; I simply extrapolate to predict other short men are treated this way. Secondly, I've visited forums for short people (99% lurking, posted once and never again). They point out the same behaviors I've experienced from others. But they also seem to blame all their shortcomings (hehe) on their height. They act like broken humans. Thirdly, women I've been with have told me they usually avoid short guys and that I'm the exception. Their reasoning is that the short guys who'd try courting them in the past had Napoleon complexes and were insecure.

Think of the short male aggression as black fragility. They take real (micro) social slights and amplify them into character assassinations, then become such a piece of shit they push others to mistreat them. It becomes a cycle and a self fulfilling prophecy