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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:46:30 PM No.16708000
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Having done a long trip recently i noticed that 5G towers have spawned all over my cunt, they are literally every 500m in areas where people live or every 1-2km along the highway.
Made me wonder, these produce waves close to low power microwaves using the same kind of non-ionizing radiation, aren't they heating air molecules by oscillating the space around them ? I am not a sciencefag but i understand that heat is a result of vibrations and it seems logical that creating vibrations around molecules would cause heat, but to what extent this would be felt, if at all, by us meatbags.
I tried looking it up on search engines but nothing comes up, only that the pannels generate quite a lot of heat from electricity loss.

I'd appreciate a discourse. I am not trying to prove anything, just want understand. Please keep weather manipulation and other conspiracy theories related to them to some other thread. It is strictly about the heating of air molecules from the emission of non-ionizing radiation.

Tl;dr do 5G towers cause heating of our atmosphere by emiting radiation considering the scale of their deployment?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:01:23 PM No.16708006
>>16708000 (OP)
I think they don't have enough power to do that
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:13:18 PM No.16708067
>>16708006
A 5G tower can use up to 10000W, while a microwave oven uses between 400 and 1200W i believe. I don't know about individual panels, i can't find info.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:38:23 PM No.16708087
>>16708000 (OP)
>5G towers have spawned all over my cunt
Why are you allowing people to construct anything around your genitals?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:03:22 PM No.16708097
>>16708067
Then it will heat it's surroundings like any other 10kW appliance would. All electricity that is used ends up as waste heat eventually. Of course a tower like that doesn't use that much all the time and most of it doesn't end up in the actual waves it sends out which are just few watts, which is in stark contrast to a microwave which directly puts over half of it's power requirements into the food as heat.
The effect on a human is not detectable from a thermal perspective even from a few meters away.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:36:47 PM No.16708239
>>16708067
Using 10 kW does not mean 10 kW power is radiated. Most of this power is burned in the tower's own electrical circuits.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:01:50 PM No.16708594
>>16708097
>>16708239
My point is that the heat it emits isn't solely the electrical heat waste(resistance heating). Now as i understand, EMFs cause dielectic heating and the agitation caused by the signal isn't related to pure power, but by the amplitude of the signal. I don't believe that there is a linear relation between electrical power and signal amplitude. If i remember well, energy carried = amplitude squared so effectively it is an exponential relationship. By doubling the power you quadruples the amplitude(emf strength). Now a 5G tower in the open is not a closed oven microwave with reflective surfaces, but, with the presence of microparticules of metal in the air (from cars braking, industry, etc.) you can have similar effects, given, at a very small to not measurable scale. Air molecules themselves are freely moving so the effect must be also lessened considerably compared to a microwave oven.

All of that to say that i don't know to what extent joule heating and dielectic heating can be compared considering the environment, but i think i understand that 1kW of power through a tower equals to 1kW squared of energy at the point of emission. Due to their proximity to one another the energy must diffuse very quickly so measuring the real effect must be so complicated.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:10:19 PM No.16708596
>>16708239
In the hypothetical scenario that 10kW is truely used by the machine, it's EMF strength would be 100MW. It's not counting the resistance heating of the electrical circuits.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:11:04 PM No.16708654
>>16708594
The real answer anon is they fry people brains, why birds for example don't nest there

But given that everyone here is air transmitted signal dependant they will hesitate to accept it
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:20:44 PM No.16708663
>>16708654
Looked more into it and at this range air molecules seem unaffected. Although water molecules are and since we are 60% water it has to have an effect on the human body. Slow cookin.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:08:20 PM No.16708688
>>16708594
Your point is moot and was already blown out.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:23:10 PM No.16708735
>>16708594
If the power is doubled, then the amplitude is multiplied by sqrt(2). This is a sqrt(x) increase, which is even slower than a linear increase.
More than 95% of air molecules are already nonpolar. They are not heated by EM fields at radio frequencies. Remaining stuff like water vapor etc. may cause heating, but this is negligible. The air density is also very low to efficiently transfer heat compared to food in the microwave. Also EM waves don't heat perfect metals because the wave gets reflected from it.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 5:27:02 PM No.16708740
>>16708594
If the power is doubled, then the amplitude is multiplied by sqrt(2). This is a sqrt(x) increase, which is even slower than a linear increase.
More than 95% of air molecules are already nonpolar. They are not heated by EM fields at radio frequencies. Remaining stuff like water vapor etc. may cause heating, but this is negligible. The air density is also very low to efficiently transfer heat compared to food in the microwave.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:14:54 AM No.16709911
>>16708000 (OP)
>they are literally every 500m
Yeah thats what the spec requires
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:15:57 AM No.16709913
>>16708006
This. 5g towers are for surveilance not heating up the atmosphere
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:22:14 AM No.16709939
>>16708000 (OP)
>my cunt
Pic?
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:29:32 AM No.16711774
>>16708000 (OP)
There are bands where atmospheric absorbtion is noticable (about 80 GHz, I think) but for that very same reason you prefer to avoid those bands.
Also 10 kW seems a bit much, especially as the cells are mush smaller than for the first generation systems. Perhaps the colocation sites eat that much power but the emitted power is likely to me far less.

In comparison, sunlight has a far higher frequency and at 0.8 kW per square meter it is far more intense. Yet people fail to explode in sunlight.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:38:42 AM No.16711782
>>16708000 (OP)
>oscillating space
How do you 'oscillate space' in classical physics?
>heating air molecules
Not only is the power pathetically low the attenuation in free air is also very low. Why do you think someone would choose a freuency with high attenuation? Those bands always get allocated to the use for unlicensed use, naturally because you can not do fuck all with them and also it's really hard to cause much trouble in thkse bands.
But yes: Naturally there is some attenuation and naturall, that energy must go somewhere so of course it's going to end up in the air as heat. But if you consider the low power and the volume it's probably far beyond the most sophisticafed thermometers.
Your observation that it is hot is correct tho. It's called global warming. It's caused by inconsiderate folk leading highly energy intensive lifestyle, including motorized means of transport, vaccations even, HVAC and so on.