Why does india perform above average in chess but not any other game? India ranks really low on basically every competitive game, which is usually explained by either biological or cultural factors. But chess is the only exception, and india puts out more champions per capita than most countries. Especially tamil and telugu brahmins. India has an average IQ of 79 and chess is a highly g-loaded game.

Why does india do well in chess but fail at everything else?

>>16709325 (OP)
Most of chess is just rote memorisation. I posted it earlier, but Bobby Fischer stopped playing precisely because of this

>Bobby: Because I know what Chess is all about! It’s all about memorization. It’s all about pre-arrangement…

>Interviewer: But creativity?

>Bobby: Creativity is lower down on the list. The old Chess is… you are banging your head against the wall with this theory… where you are, you know, trying to find some little improvement on move 18 or 20… it’s ridiculous! It gets harder and harder and harder, and you need more and more computers, and more and more people working for you… and less and less creativity. It’s ridiculous! Why? Why?

And that was like 30/40 years ago when he gave that interview. I think he'd quit a decade earlier. Indians can only copy, they can't create.

>>16709325 (OP)
>and india puts out more champions per capita than most countries
I never heard of any indian champion in chess until last month or so when one of them won one game against Magnus

>>16709325 (OP)

There are two Indias. One is sending CEOs to Silicon Valley, grabbing the EB-2 visas, sending rockets to Mars, etc.

And the other part shits outside toilets despite having them.

In India, if you are a kid from one of those affluent families, you are discouraged from taking sports seriously, and even national level champions have horrible poor or lower middle class lives. They are pushed towards being doctors, etc.

And there is extremely negligible amount of sports played in 99% of Indian schools. Sports classes are there. Nobody takes them seriously.

In the US, the Math toppers are seen as "brain", "nerd", "freak", etc. And they are bullied to no end. The culture in India is upside down. Class toppers, Math geniuses are worshipped and revered.

Chess falls more in Math and Science and Engineering club than high jump, long jump club. So affluent families encourage their children to play chess.

And it is different because there needs to be no investment, infrastructure from the government. Governments in India only think about winning elections. They don't invest in Sports like China does.

But you need literally $2 for Chess boards and pieces and you are set. You can play Chess inside rooms. You don't need to mix with the street shitters. That's why Chess is huge in many parts of India. Government don't spend, don't care, not needed + middle class Indians feel comfortable with the Chess prestige.

>>16709579
Delusional street shitter

>>16709579
India is a shithole and the whole "ugh im from a good family" is an indictment against such good families. The people running the country are simply extremely bad at running it, its a sign of corruption and negligence that only a small elite can have normal lives in India, but this elite actually enjoys this situation because it makes them feel more elite.
Also, return to reddit sukhdeek, i can tell you post on reddit often

>>16709325 (OP)
Isn’t it obvious? It’s easy to cheat in chess with an engine.

>>16709579
>In the US, the Math toppers are seen as "brain", "nerd", "freak", etc. And they are bullied to no end

This is the only point I would disagree with. This has basically been flipped on its head in the last like ten years, but other than that you're totally on point (at least, as far as I can tell). Thanks for sharing!

>>16709555
WC before Magnus was Indian

>>16709325 (OP)
>More chess champions per capita
Lol no.

>>16709325 (OP)
All indians play chess. Very few indians play any other sport.

>>16709407
This is in an interview where he promotes freestyle chess where opening theory is useless. It is quite interesting that India's performance in freestyle is substantially worse then normal chess, so you might have a point on the memorization. But also India invented chess + Viswanathan Anand so I would expect chess to be in their culture like go in east Asia.

>>16710035
Yeah, very true in west coast, urban areas like NY, Seattle, etc. Has it changed much in *most* places?

>>16710110
Never heard of him. I'm sure there are good indians in chess but they are not famous. People look at all the good chess players and they are always russians or americans, or 90% at least. Like, people knnoew about Kasparov, Bobby Fisher and assorted figures, no one knows of any famous indian chess player

>>16709579
>In the US, the Math toppers are seen as "brain", "nerd", "freak", etc. And they are bullied to no end.
Only if they're in a public school with nigs. I think you watch too much tv

>>16709325 (OP)
What are these biological factors?

They're also good at useless shit like spelling bees

>>16709325 (OP)
Because India finances their promising young chess players and other countries don’t. Race has nothing to do with it.

> "Show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome."

-- Charlie Munger.

The real question is where do cultural incentives come from. It comes from good-taste, and aesthetics. Every race has an underclass, and but some races have a larger underclass. And this is due to bad taste, bad morals, lack of self resposibility, and yes low IQ.

In India it is cool and hip to brag that you are hanging outside trains and live to tell the tale. It is also cool and hip for even retards to get married and make babies, who then think it is cool and hip to hang outside trains. The democracy reacts to these trends by not having enough trains or improving the infrastructure to handle more faster trains.

>>16709325 (OP)
Because sports don't get you anywhere in India except international dick-jerking events like the Olympics. At least in the US even if you don't become world-class, investing in a sport will get you into a good university.