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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:45:49 PM No.16711353
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Ok. So let's say that you were going to make a colony on mars and the way you were going to do it would be to use a canyon in the Valles Marineris to make a micro climate. How would you go about it? Bonus question. If you were going to make a rail gun to shoot packages into orbit using Olympus Mons what would be the power requirement to payload and how much track would you need?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:55:17 PM No.16711364
>>16711353 (OP)
Too big. That shit's hundreds of kilometers wide in most spots. You'd be better finding smaller craters or lava tubes that you could seal off or dome up.

As for the rail gun, orbital velocity for low martian orbit is like 3.5 km/s or something close to that, so about 6 MJ/kg.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:09:20 AM No.16711962
>>16711353 (OP)
First I invent artificial gravity. And since we've already descended into nonsense. I create a boy-haram of alien blueskins to conquer the galaxy.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:13:52 AM No.16711966
>>16711353 (OP)
All I need is a library of good games and about a dozen anime waifus made real.
I'll populate the entire planet with my anime waifus harem
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:18:19 AM No.16711971
>>16711966
You also need artificial gravity, dumb-dumb. Otherwise you die.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:40:53 AM No.16711992
>>16711962
>Olympus Mons
But we have already discovered gravity manipulation technologies.

Look into Bob Lazar
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:51:10 AM No.16712179
>>16711353 (OP)
>How would you go about it?
I shit and piss on your face then send a swarm of niggers to beat you up and assrape you. Any more questions?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:56:45 AM No.16713441
I wouldn't build shit there. I'd simply send undesirables like OP to Mars so the rest of us have chance of surviving here on Earth. If hypothetically I had enough money to do this.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:57:55 PM No.16713548
>>16711353 (OP)
I probably wouldn't bother with micro-climates on mars. there are global duststorms that can easily carry away any atmosphere you carefully poured into the big ditch.
also mars is losing atmosphere anyways, due to the lack of a magnetosphere.
i wouldn't invest too much into gas on mars, unless you can keep it inside a surface dome, or a subsurface cave.

radiation is another big problem, also due to the lack of a magnetosphere. if you really must start in the ditch, you might want to drill into the side and put all of your humans into that tunnel.
rocks are a cheaper radiation shield than anything you would have to build.

the olympus mons thing could easily work, and be useful, if you just shoot regular rockets from there.

a railgun/spinlaunch thingy, where your payload experiences extreme aerodynamic forces due to being fast inside an atmosphere is probably a no-no.

refueling a rocket from earth with fuel from mars would be a first big step.
building a rocket with components from mars would be the next.

setting up infrastructure to transport rockets to a mountain top would be huge, but also very expensive. we haven't even figured out how to do that on earth, and i don't think it would be easier on mars.
bulky heavy cargo is typically transported by ship/barge. that's not an option for mountains, and definitely not an option for mars.
you could build a big train, but that would have the disadvantage that you need to build big tracks. and you need to maintain those. while being irradiated.

there is an amount of rockets you'd have to shoot to orbit for all of that to be worth it, and i think we're a good couple of decades away from that point.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:03:24 PM No.16713554
>>16713441
We tried that already. Today Australia is one of the leading causes of social decay.
>>16711992
Even without that, I have to wonder with the lower gravity on Mars, would it be a good candidate for a space elevator/hook?
>>16711364
You could start small with the narrow canyon ends and expand inwards towards the middle over time as necessary.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:25:33 PM No.16713572
>>16713548
>magnetosphere
>launching from a higher altitude
Did you make this post to piss me off
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:27:35 PM No.16713574
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>>16711353 (OP)
ETFE plastic anchored to the ground with cables. Easier for you to research this yourself instead of asking on /sci/. All of this work has already been done.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:43:42 PM No.16715313
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>>16711353 (OP)
Lava tunnels are the best way.
Nature made a HUGE safe place to colonize.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:14:55 AM No.16715377
>>16711971
You don't know that. You really don't know that. We have no data on long-term health effects of reduced gravity; just on normal gravity and zero (well, free fall, but that's just as good) and LITERALLY TWO DATA POINTS isn't enough to work this out. Bed rest studies don't help; we need data from people who are being naturally active in reduced gravity.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:00:01 AM No.16715419
>>16713574
Any work on probability that all that water will end up being toxic?
Also what are the odds that the valley walls collapse now that they're experiencing water erosion for the first time in quite a while?
Or does the plastic bubble wrap all the way around?
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:13:34 AM No.16716411
In terms of making a colony, Venus > Mars
The 0.38 G is shit
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:08:24 AM No.16717964
>>16713574
>all other nationalities get normal sounding place names
>Kraut town and village are named "Vegetable city" and "Fruit village"
It ain't fair..
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:05:15 AM No.16718103
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>>16716411
0.38G gives you plenty to work with, you can even wear weighted suits to put a more earth-analog force on your bones.

We don't know if it will reduce intracranial pressure enough to prevent "spaceflight associated neuro-ocular syndrome" which may damage the eyes over a long period of time.

But it may.