Professors: do you actually give a shit about weaker students? - /sci/ (#16713922) [Archived: 470 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:58:27 PM No.16713922
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Genuinely do you care about those who don’t easily understand the material and struggle in your courses? I’d kinda assume they’d just be a burden to you and you’d start to loathe having to teach them because they’re just too stupid to learn
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:06:36 PM No.16713930
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:38:45 PM No.16713964
idc how smart they are. some of my most obnoxious students have been brilliant A-students, and some of my most amazing students have been C-students who struggled. i care about their personality and how well we click.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:40:53 PM No.16713966
>>16713964
addendum: my favorite student ever (and the only one whom I told explicitly to ask me for a rec letter) was a C+ student who busted her ass to improve her grade to a B+. she met with me in my office 5 hours a week, worked through problems in my office, asked for extra problems to work with on her own, and was an all around extremely pleasant person to be around. i wish all my students can be like her.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:20:34 PM No.16714000
>>16713966
Good for you anon! The more professors like you the better
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:09:08 PM No.16714052
>>16713922 (OP)
Why would I loath them? I'm not lecturing because I want to get any insights out of the students, but because it is my job to teach them stuff. Just be a decent human being, like 95% of students are anyway, and show some will to learn.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:54:33 PM No.16714096
>>16713966
>rewarding retards for brute forcing their way through a degree
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:02:47 PM No.16714103
>>16714096
she's in med school now, and i wrote that i'd trust her as my doctor. and i genuinely would.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:07:03 PM No.16714110
>>16714103
BASED BASED BASED
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:16:47 PM No.16714112
>>16713922 (OP)
i give a shit about kids that give a shit
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:37:38 PM No.16714136
>>16714112
damn I made this post with the assumption that professors didn't give a shit about kids who weren't as naturally gifted and i'm apparently dead wrong. Good for all of you! This genuinely made my day
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:29:50 AM No.16714181
>>16713922 (OP)
I dont think they give a shit about any students.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:54:17 AM No.16714197
>>16713922 (OP)
No professor ultimately gives a shit about any of their students (they might lie and tell you otherwise). Ultimately any student of theirs is either a potential research slave who they can use to boost their resume, or the dregs who get expelled into industry.

Do not get attached to a professor lest you get chewed up and shat out by academia.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:09:07 AM No.16714207
>>16713964
>>16713966
Kill yourself. We're getting eclipsed by chinkland because of libtards like you.
>b-b-but she had a good personality and made me feel good!
If she sucked your dick then you should just pay her with money, not give her a rec letter just so she can get a undeserved white collar job instead of sucking more dicks.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:10:16 AM No.16714210
>>16714103
This is why I'll never take on a nigger or femoid doctor
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:22:03 AM No.16714214
I give a shit about my students and only my students. My administration has turned me into a barely in contact with reality shell of a person
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:29:53 AM No.16714360
>>16714214
BASED BASED BASED
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:41:34 AM No.16714369
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>>16713922 (OP)
>Professors: do you actually give a shit about weaker students?
If I don't pass the weaker students, I get accused of racism and fired.
This is the way you wanted it: False equality enforced at gunpoint. Now enjoy the consequences.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:27:53 AM No.16714415
>>16713922 (OP)
If a student is genuinely making an effort I am prepared to move mountains to give them whatever time and help I need to to help them earn a passing mark.

If a student isn't willing to put in an effort though, they can fuck right off. I've wasted so many hundreds of goddamned hours setting up tutoring hours that someone didn't show up to or giving people second or third chances for shit and then they blow it off, and then after all that effort they fucking drop the class anyway.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:33:29 AM No.16714418
In today's episode of /sci/zophrenia, /sci/tards describe their hallucinatory experiences of being professors
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:29:59 AM No.16714444
>>16714418
/sci/ has been around for 15 years, anon. there's more than a few people who started out here as undergrads or grads back when the board was new who are now professors, researchers, and industry professionals.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:38:38 AM No.16714448
>>16714207
Nah chinks and indians will just cheat and not learn how to do things properly, which is how you get 90 degree angle bridges
Common sense is taught the hard way.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:38:53 AM No.16714449
>>16714444
checked
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:43:40 AM No.16714451
Professors=retards who just know whose ass to lick clean.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:14:41 AM No.16714514
>>16714415
This.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:23:16 AM No.16714518
When I was a T.A. I loved retards because it meant I could focus on the basics, which I knew the best and also had pop science pedantry and philosophy for.

"But What AcCctuuuaaAaLyy *IS* IT? HAHA :DDDDD"
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:25:55 AM No.16714520
>>16713966
>>16714096
This. You shouldn't encourage retards who can only progress with borderline slavery work hours because they will never ever make it and contribute something useful.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:02:54 PM No.16714776
>>16714207
We're being eclipsed by the Chinese because of their superior approach to economics, nothing else.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:55:48 PM No.16714860
>>16714520
Work ethic and perseverance can't turn a retard into a prodigy, but it can turn a middling student into an above-average one, or turn an above-average student into an exceptional one.

I'll take that over a class full of self-proclaimed geniuses who make zero effort and try to coast through shit only to discover too late that they're not nearly as smart as they think they are.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:05:52 PM No.16714869
You're all professors ITT? Interesting..
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:12:00 PM No.16714875
>>16714869
Probably fewer than half
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:15:56 PM No.16714880
I worked as a temporary lecturer. Did not give a shit about students. Any students. They fired me after a year though.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:17:32 PM No.16714881
>>16714869
They usually make you vap of adjunct for a few years after the PhD, then banish you to industry.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:22:34 PM No.16714886
>>16714197
>dregs who get expelled into industry
You mean promoted to industry?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:23:34 PM No.16714887
>>16714103
>i'd trust my doctor because he's nice to me
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:34:17 PM No.16714897
>>16714887
Don't we all want a doctor who cares about us?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:39:35 PM No.16714903
>>16713922 (OP)
Professors see most of their students as relative retards.
>>16714415
The effort/will matters. The smart students are going to thrive regardless. The teaching isn't for them. Sometimes it is interesting to reverse engineer and debug the misconceptions of the slower students but they must also be willing participants for it to work.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:52:41 PM No.16714918
I studied alongside the top student in the department, and all she ever did was cheat during exams and memorize formulas without understanding a single concept. Since then, I’ve lost all respect for so-called top students — they have no respect for themselves.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:14:05 PM No.16715015
>>16714903
>The smart students are going to thrive regardless.
Not always. I've seen plenty of bright students crash and burn because they thought they could coast through a program.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:54:35 PM No.16715100
>>16714880
Can’t imagine why.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:07:29 PM No.16715117
>>16714887
if you think i trust her because she was nice to me, then you didn't understand my post. your reading comprehension sucks.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:55:46 AM No.16715361
>>16714415
You are based anon. Thank you for giving a shit about students
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:01:06 AM No.16715366
This post has been so heartening. Genuinely inspiring to see so many professors really caring. Thank you profanons. You may not hear it super often but your efforts ARE appreciated
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:18:05 AM No.16715564
>>16714520
>ou shouldn't encourage retards who can only progress with borderline slavery work hours because they will never ever make
Learning science is useful without having to make any contributions. Scientists can simply work in technological development and a scientific education is also just a good thing to have in general regardles of your job. However this means such people should not get into PhD programs, which are meant for people that want to do original research
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:30:01 AM No.16715580
>>16714887
yeah? its the #1 way to prevent a malpractice lawsuit
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:20:19 AM No.16715599
>>16714096
>>16714207
t. bitter sore losers
Some of the stupidest people I've met were A students who just did very good jobs at following textbooks like cookiny recipes. They were absolutely inept when they weren't given clear instructions on how to proceed and weren't cut for postgraduate studies.
When people say they prefer likable, hard-working C students with potential they obviously don't mean the new von Neumann is going to be passed over in favour of a dumb girl who talks softly. It means the stuck up, self-important cunt who thinks he's brilliant for getting good marks is not just not as smart as he thinks he is, but so unpleasant people will do anything to keep him from their workplaces.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:22:40 AM No.16715619
>>16715599
Oppenheimer?
You would really reject Feynman just because he is going to dick your wife?
Really? You would really reject Einstein just because he popularizes all of your ideas under his name? Really?
Are you a nazi?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:29:14 AM No.16715623
>>16714096
>>16714207
>>16714520
>He thinks people actually get the grade they deserve
In the US, you are pretty much forced to artificially inflate scores so that most of your students pass. There is absolutely zero incentive to actually do a good job at teaching; the only thing that matters is getting good reviews, and the only way to get good reviews is to make sure everybody gets a good grade.
Students will complain to the department if the homework or exams require the slightest amount of critical thinking, so everything just becomes rote-learned computations, which they still somehow manage to fuck up.
Moreover, college kids' literacy skills are atrocious. They legitimately cannot read and comprehend anything longer than a brief sentence. I had students complain to the department because my homework questions were "too wordy". Their writing skills are even worse than their reading comprehension; most of them are incapable of writing full sentences, and even if they manage to, it ends up being incoherent slop.
I end up giving about half my students in each class an A, and only end up failing the ones who miss exams and never submit homework, despite the fact that about 80% of them should never have been allowed to graduate high school.
Lastly, the majority of lecturers in the US are grad students. We are forced to waste our time teaching entitled mouth-breathers who don't even want to learn, and we get paid less than some of the students who have part-time jobs. You see it every year, the new grad students come in excited to teach, and then realize how monumentally retarded the students are, and in less than a single semester, their disposition has flipped.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:08:42 PM No.16715641
>>16715619
Read my post until you get it. Real geniuses aren't getting rejected in favour of agreeable hard workers. You're not a prodigy because you got As in undergrad courses.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:35:18 PM No.16715661
>>16715619
This is what I mean when I say reading comprehension is down the toilet.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:35:08 PM No.16715741
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>>16713966
based.
effort is what makes a good physician in the long run.
plenty of big brain doctors miss things thirdie nurses catch because 10 years in they can't be fucked to actually look at a chart unless there's something unique to reward their novelty seeking high IQ brains.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:35:42 PM No.16715744
>>16713922 (OP)
The weak should be purged.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:09:13 PM No.16715771
>>16715623
That's because you goys are so sold on capitalism you actuallt implement it in places where it is demonstrably harmful.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:21:27 PM No.16715782
>>16713922 (OP)
I loathe admin because they would enroll any retard these days and I have to tardwrangle them.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:29:04 PM No.16715789
>>16715771
Not really. The government is paying for the public high schools, and is subsidizing college. Blaming the situation on an economic idea misses the forest for the trees.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:32:24 PM No.16715792
>>16715789
Evidence that the decline of educational quality is not US-centric. at some point, we need to start blaming the students. i blame them as much as i blame obese children. yes, there are extenuating circumstances partially out of their control, but they still have a modicum of agency and lack the ability to take ownership over their own lives. they're all getting addicted to social media, losing the ability to critically think, and becoming allergic to nuance. this is a global phenomenon btw and is partially why academia has come under fire. notice how he just says "capitalism" as a vague boogeyman. no nuance, no critical thinking. just a retarded soundbite echoed from a 90 second tiktok video
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:32:24 PM No.16715793
>>16714887
AI is going to make it where being nice is a big part of being a doctor. no one likes a cold nurse.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:41:29 PM No.16715906
>>16715793
nurses ain't doctors, and all kids today can do is look at their ipad instead of their patient per all the old-medical farts up a generation that i know
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:43:55 PM No.16715912
>>16715906
Retarded tech-averse boomers don't stop being retarded tech-averse boomers just because they have MD next to their name
>t. MD who is actually keeping up with standard of practice
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:00:37 PM No.16715914
>>16715912
being able to paw at an ipad doesn't make you intelligent
and all the old med fucks i know adopt tech far more readily than myself
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:03:08 PM No.16715915
>>16715914
Retarded tech-averse boomer detected, opinion rejected. Obviously I don't stare at my laptop the entire visit, but seething at tactical referencing of the EMR to improve speed and accuracy in a heavy patient load is a classic boomerdoc move
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:05:22 PM No.16715917
>>16715915
try to remember to talk to your patients instead of your ipad, nurse
also, i'll take the boomer's advice and try not to get sick. otherwise i'll end up in the care of drones like you that will get me killed when they prescribe a contraindicated drug
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:10:50 PM No.16715922
>>16715917
My patients love my bedside manner, both inpatient and outpatient. Just hope that your boomerdoc doesn't decide to use phenobarbital (since "that's how it was done back in the day") to treat mild anxiety you walk in with one day

Hope he doesn't see your blood pressure of 210/130 and decide to give you metop succ (since that's how he did it back in his day)
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:18:10 PM No.16715923
>>16714444
This is such stupid reasoning on your part. You should be ashamed.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:46:29 PM No.16715936
>>16715793
>no one likes a cold nurse.
I'd absolutely simpmax for a cute unattainable ice princess doctorina.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:48:50 PM No.16716027
>>16714444
/sci/ tricked me into getting a math phd
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:15:56 PM No.16716055
>>16714886
These people unironically believe that professorship is the highest form of career
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:15:01 PM No.16716098
>>16716055
that's because it is
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:27:52 PM No.16716104
>>16716055
>Get paid a decent amount to do whatever you like
>Highest intellectual standing
>Literally can't get fired
>Get to travel pretty much anywhere you like on the University's dime
It kind of is.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:34:16 PM No.16716109
>>16716104
>to do whatever you like
to do whatever is trendy enough to get you grants
only like 1% of Witten-brained guys at Princeton and MIT do what they want and drive trends
>Highest intellectual standing
Plenty of very intelligent people who didn’t seek professorship or absconded from it: Schopenhauer, Spinoza, Grothendieck. Intellect is something internal to a person and not something earned via corporate ladder climbing.

Plenty of drooling retards in the academia too: low tier uni profs, spousal hires, “my dad’s a professor” nepobabies.
>can’t get fired
tenure is becoming an endangered species, soon to be extinct
>get to travel anywhere you like
Nope. You have to travel to where conferences are and fighting admin for money for these traveling expenses wastes a lot of professors’ time.

You are clearly Dunning-Krugering hard.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:45:52 PM No.16716116
>>16716109
found the disgruntled postdoc who couldn't get a cozy TT position.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:50:20 AM No.16716162
>>16716098
>that's because it is
Prove it
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 1:43:54 AM No.16716182
>>16716162
>tenure
>20 hour weeks (i can go home whenever i want)
>9 month contract, so summers off
>yearly vacations paid for by the university for "professional development"
People really value earning 50% extra salary to be a slave in a cubicle with no job security. The work-life balance is second to none.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:01:24 AM No.16716192
>>16716116
nice argument
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:03:42 AM No.16716193
>>16716182
>20 hr work week
lol, lmao even.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:25:25 AM No.16716200
>>16716193
I'm forever associate. Not going to burn myself out. I love theoretical physics because I can work on a theory for ten years (wink wink) before publishing something.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:42:50 AM No.16716282
>>16716200
>I can work on a theory for ten years (wink wink) before publishing something
Why are you blatantly lying about being a theoretical physics professor? If you actually were one, you’d know how dire the publishing and funding situation is.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:14:37 AM No.16716413
>>16716182
Its easier to get rich by promoting dubai and retiring at 30, then you have the rest of your life for yourself
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 1:55:06 PM No.16716512
>>16714776
>superior approach to economics
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:12:31 PM No.16716558
>>16716282
>Forever associate
>Concerned about funding and publishing
Anon, I thought theoretical physicists (like you) were supposed to be smart. He's clearly not interested in research.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:43:33 PM No.16716603
>>16713922 (OP)
Weaker students are more docile and a lot less time consuming so yes, I love them
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:54:55 PM No.16716610
>>16715619
Most Indian post of this thread
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:02:00 PM No.16716613
>16716200
How come DOGE didn't fire this retard? Is it because seeing 'physics' in his resume instead of 'gender studies' was enough to dissuade Elon?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:57:43 PM No.16717615
>>16715599
Kill yourself kike.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:59:35 PM No.16717617
>>16716613
sore loser kek
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:02:38 PM No.16717620
>>16715623
This is why subhumans like >>16713966 should be summarily executed, for the crime of deliberately sabotaging Civilization.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:13:39 PM No.16717630
>>16717620
and what do you contribute to society, anon?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:37:25 PM No.16717661
>>16713922 (OP)
Jumping in after only reading a few comments.

Anyway, I (now a professor) care as much as the student cares. I'm thrilled when a student asks a question, it lets me know what's clicking and what's not, and it leads me to improving the curriculum later. After doing this for a few years now, I know in advance what is most likely to cause confusion in a course and that leads me to pre-empt common questions with good explanations. Only downside to improving the curriculum is I get a lot fewer questions now, which is probably good but figuring out good explanations to an unexpected question on the fly is part of the excitement of the job.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:20:42 PM No.16717681
>>16715641
Your post directly contradicts that. For example, Newton was famously a massive cunt who would quarrel for no reason. Your focus on sentimentalities like “ohhhh this guy’s so agreeable and nice to work with” and “ewwww this guy’s icky because he questions me sometimes” is why everyone in the academia is so appallingly mediocre today.