Most efficient way to solve this? - /sci/ (#16714061) [Archived: 461 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:19:05 PM No.16714061
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What is the most efficient way to solve:
P + G = 9
2*G + A = 19
A + P = 7

I can do it but it takes too many steps.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:30:03 PM No.16714071
>>16714061 (OP)
(2) - (1) - (3)
G = 3
EZPZ; took me 5 seconds
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:33:20 PM No.16714074
Based on the image you can guess that there are whole number solutions for Pineapple, Grape, and Apple.
Based on two Grapes and an Apple = 19, you can guess that grape is pretty big. So, do guess and check starting with Grape = 8 and work down.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:26:20 PM No.16714121
>>16714061 (OP)
> Original equations
P + G = 9 <--- Equation 1
2G + A = 19 <--- Equation 2
A + P = 7 <--- Equation 3

> Isolate A:
A = 7 - P

> Substitute A on second Equation
2G + (7 - P) = 19
2G - P = 19 - 7
2G - P = 12 <--- Equation 4

> Add Equation 1 and Equation 4:
(P + G) + (2G - P) = 9 + 12
3G + P - P = 21
3G = 21
G = 21/3
G = 7

> Now the rest is easy, since we know G:
P + G = 9 <--- Equation 1
Then P = 2

A + P = 7 <--- Equation 3
then A = 5
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:31:24 PM No.16714126
>>16714121
I forgot to mention, you can also isolate G or P on step 1 (where we isolated A).
All 3 methods will give the same result.
This is the most efficient way to resolve it, and it's called "elimination method for solving systems of equations"
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:40:16 AM No.16714191
What you're all missing is that the image isn't asking for the individual values, but just the sum, A+G+P.
Then it's just:
A+P+G
=(1/3)(3A+3G+3P)
=(1/3)((P+G)+(2G+A)+2(A+P))
=(1/3)(9+19+2*7)
=(1/3)(42)
=14
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:23:13 AM No.16714217
>>16714061 (OP)
A + B = 9
2B + C = 19
A + C = 7
A + B + C = X

>A + B + A + C = 2A + B + C = 16
2A + B + C = 16
>2B + C - ( A + C ) - ( A + B ) = -2A + B = 3
-2A + B = 3
>2A + B + C - 2A + B = 2B + C = 13
2B + C = 13
but
2B + C is 19
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:26:07 AM No.16714221
>>16714061 (OP)
G-A=2
3G=21
G=7, P=2, A=5, sum=14
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:56:15 AM No.16714249
>>16714061 (OP)
Not a math fag but here goes:

>P+G=9
Assuming nothing is zero, both values can't be higher than 8.
A can be anything
P can be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
G can be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

>2G+A = 19
If G max is 8, then 2G max is 16, thus A cannot be 1 or 2.
A can be 3,4,5,6,7,8,9, 10?
P can be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
G can be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

2G must always be even, therefore A must be odd
A: 3,5,7,9, 11?
P: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
G: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

>A+P=7
Again, assuming no 0, neither the apple or pair can be above 6
A: 3,5
P: 1,2,3,4,5,6
G: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

SECOND PASS
>2G+A=19
Apples have been wittled down to just 2 values, therefore we can test them. We either have:
>2*7 Grapes + 5 Apples = 19
>2*8 Grapes + 3 Apples = 19
Grapes therefore must = 7 or 8:

A: 3,5
P: 1,2,3,4,5,6
G: 7,8

>P+G = 9
If grapes are either 7 or 8, then pineapples must be either 1 or 2:
A: 3,5
P: 1,2
G: 7,8

>A+P = 7
Given apples are 3 or 5, and pineapples are 1 or 2, the only logical conclusion is:
APPLE = 5
PINEAPPLE = 2
Therefore, GRAPE = 7

5+2+7 = 14
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:33:33 AM No.16714365
>>16714061 (OP)
Whoever keeps making these fucking things needs to be kicked in the nuts really hard.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:12:35 AM No.16714438
>>16714061 (OP)
14
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:29:18 AM No.16714470
>>16714061 (OP)
Assuming 2 grapes equals 2 x grape not grape squared,

The best way to solve it is

3 apples + 3 grapes + 3 pineapples equals 42, divide that by 3 you get 14, so the last equation is 14

You get 3 of each fruit by adding the top equation, adding the second, doubling the third and then adding it.

so 9 + 19 + (2x7) = 42 and that represents the total cost of all 3 of each fruit (and then you divide it by 3)
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:34:56 AM No.16714491
>>16714061 (OP)
>Count the grapes. There are seven of them. Grapes = 7
>7 + pineapple =9
> pineapple = 9-7= 2
>14 + apple= 19
>apple = 19-14 = 5
>5 + 7 + 2= 14
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:42:16 AM No.16714526
x+y+z=4.5+/-sqrt(21.25)
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:14:09 AM No.16714541
>>16714191
Based
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:15:30 AM No.16714542
>>16714191
How the fuck wouls u realize this rearrange after multiplying by 3 trick quickly?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:22:39 AM No.16714545
>>16714542
>Try adding the 3 sums together
>(P+G)+(2G+A)+(A+P)
>3G+2A+2P

>Huh, if I add another (A+P) I'll have exactly 3x the target
Pretty simple, really.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:26:11 AM No.16714551
>>16714545
Ah I see. My first thought was to substitute into 4 but that only gave me what P was.

I'll remember your trick. Just sum all the equations that dont add in ?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:24:06 AM No.16714582
>>16714061 (OP)
[math] \displaystyle
\left \{ \begin{matrix}
x+y &= 9 & \Leftrightarrow x=9-y \\
2y+z &= 19 & \Leftrightarrow z=19-2y \\
z+x &=7 & \Leftrightarrow 19-2y+9-y=7 \\
\end{matrix} \right.
\\
3y=19+9-7=21 \Leftrightarrow y=7 \Rightarrow x=2,z=5
[/math]
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:25:05 AM No.16714584
>>16714582
You failed
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:29:47 AM No.16714589
>>16714584
ok einstein
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:13:51 PM No.16715124
>>16714061 (OP)
Well, linear algebra. You could try using the determinant instead, but good ol' Gaussian seems to be efficient to me.
[math]
\left[
\begin{array}{ccc|c}
1 & 1 & 0 & 9 \\
0 & 2 & 1 & 19 \\
1 & 0 & 1 & 7
\end{array}
\right]\approx
\left[
\begin{array}{ccc|c}
1 & 0 & 0 & 2 \\
0 & 1 & 0 & 7 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 5
\end{array}
\right]\implies 2 + 7 + 5 = 14[/math]
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:18:32 PM No.16715132
>>16715124
what approximations did you make to get the exact answer
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:19:52 PM No.16715135
>>16715132
Kek I used approx instead of sim whoops
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:10:04 PM No.16715241
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>picrel
Keep it simple
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:41:17 PM No.16715264
Imqgine writing down so much stuff to count this, lmao. Smart people just move stuff in their heads and get an answer.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:47:01 PM No.16715671
>>16715264
This is what I did. Anons wrote down responses to show how they did it in their minds.

>>16714491
I like this troll answer.

I did same >>16714221:
P is constant in both (1) and (2).
Therefore G = A + 2.
Replace A in (2) with G. 3G = 21=> G=7
=> A = 5
(3) 7-5=2=P

Sum = 14


Using total sums is a lot harder in versions of these puzzles without numbers.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:06:30 PM No.16715728
1st line + 2nd line - 3rd line and you'll get it from there.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:24:34 PM No.16715736
>>16714061 (OP)
I didn't notice the 2 grapes in the second equation, either way it is:
Pineapple = 2
Grape = 7
Apple = 5

2+7=9
2×7+5=19
5+2=7

And
5+7+2=14
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:17:28 PM No.16715778
>use algebra
>get wrong answer
>brute force it
>get right answer
explain this
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:25:10 AM No.16716272
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>>16714061 (OP)
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:00:27 AM No.16716403
>>16714061 (OP)
(1) P + G = 9
(2) 2G + A = 19
(3) A + P = 7
(4) A + G + P = x

(5) A = x - G - P (rearrange (4) for A)

(6) x + G - P = 19 (substitute (5) into (2) to eliminate A)
(7) x - G = 7 (substitute (5) into (3) to eliminate A)

(8) x + 2G = 28 (add (1) and (6) to eliminate P)
(9) 3x = 42 (add (8) and 2*(7) to eliminate G)

(10) x = 14
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:04:14 PM No.16716446
>>16714061 (OP)

( (2) + (1) - (3) )/3 = G = 7
(3) + 7 = 14

4 steps is the best I can do.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:56:47 PM No.16716469
>>16714061 (OP)
Once times the first equation +
Twice times the third equation +
Once twice the second equation.
Divide result by 3. Done.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:58:07 PM No.16716470
>>16716469
*Once times the second equation.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:00:49 PM No.16716739
>>16714061 (OP)
[eqn]\pmatrix{1,1,0\\ 0,2,1\\ 1,0,1}\pmatrix{a\\b\\c} = \pmatrix{9\\19\\7}[/eqn]
[eqn]\pmatrix{a\\b\\c} = \pmatrix{1,1,0\\ 0,2,1\\ 1,0,1}^{-1}\pmatrix{9\\19\\7} = \pmatrix{\frac{2}{3}, -\frac{1}{3}, \frac{1}{3}\\ \frac{1}{3},\frac{1}{3},-\frac{1}{3}\\ -\frac{2}{3},\frac{1}{3},\frac{2}{3}}\pmatrix{9\\19\\7} = \pmatrix{2\\7\\5}[/eqn]

apple + grape + pinapple = 5 + 2 + 7 = 14
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:23:11 AM No.16717272
After 35 replies I think guess and check wins.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:38:26 PM No.16717948
>>16714061 (OP)
What do you mean by "too many"? How many steps do you think it should take, and why?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:01:33 AM No.16717960
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fruit?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:10:33 AM No.16717966
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If grape, apple, pineapple = the total number of fruit in the universe, than Pi = G grape, + A apple, + P pineapple.

Pi = G.A.P.

Therefore the ratio of 1 grape to an apple+pineapple = 1/3 Pi G.A.P.

Which as you know, when we need to use the number Pi we just use 1, so 1 = Pi G.A.P. which is symbolized by the double Dryphus symbol ^^ in point collision Matrix math.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:12:49 AM No.16718019
>>16714061 (OP)
2+7=9
2x7+5=19
5+2=7
5+7+2=14
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:57:18 AM No.16718093
>>16714061 (OP)
It all adds up to 35. If you remove all the apples & pineapples, you subtract 14, because an apple plus a pineapple equals 7, and there are two of each. Then you're left with three grapes equals 21, so each grape must be 7.