Can only humans suffer? - /sci/ (#16714540) [Archived: 532 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:11:14 AM No.16714540
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Is it only possible for humans to suffer since non human animals are incapable of reason and understanding the laws of logic?
Are human babies and severely mentally handicapped human adults also unable to suffer?

I do think animals can suffer but I read this and it gave me doubts

>Well my general belief about suffering is that the physical sensations are not suffering, we assign mental suffering to that. People subject themselves to physical suffering all the time very often. See marathon runners. Animals likely don't assign mental suffering to whatever it is that's happening in their life. Hungry -> look for food -> no food -> it is what it is -> die of starvation.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:23:53 AM No.16714548
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>>16714540 (OP)
>OP makes a retarded argument
>clearly OP is incapable of reason
>therefore OP is not human
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7/3/2025, 10:30:56 AM No.16714554
>>16714540 (OP)

Now it would be outright silly to assume they do not! It would simply be much more relational to present states and unburdened by complex language (which appears to often lead to confusions like existential dread).
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:32:36 AM No.16714555
>>16714554
I've felt existential dread and it really really sucks but animals can't feel that
Some humans enjoy being hit choked electrocuted etc some hate it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:13:38 AM No.16714571
>>16714540 (OP)
I think it varies, more intelligent animals have a better sense of mortality and the negative aspects of pain and injury.
Or I just relate better to the ones that express their suffering in similar ways to humans. Like an injured dog gets more pity than a cat, because the cat will hide it and resist human assistance.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:21:35 AM No.16714579
>>16714571
A video game character could be extremely relatable
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:14:33 PM No.16714608
>suffering means a being has a defiance
Homosapiens take resources other organisms
>Human centricism
We cannot stop this or else we devole mentally and start acting like animals
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:28:21 PM No.16714663
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>>16714540 (OP)
>Hungry -> look for food -> no food -> it is what it is -> die of starvation
reductio ad absurdum
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7/3/2025, 1:44:02 PM No.16714693
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>>16714555

Never really got the idea behind existential dread, really. Worry about a lot of things, alright ... but my own existence?! Can understand depression, can understand losing my appetite for a while. But that dread just does not cogitate.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:11:09 AM No.16715451
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:00:48 AM No.16715472
Only I can feel suffering. Only I am real. Everything and everyone else is just a toy for my personal amusement.