Energy–speed relationship of quantum particles challenges Bohmian mechanics - /sci/ (#16715552) [Archived: 397 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:47:08 AM No.16715552
bohm@2x
bohm@2x
md5: e40f97d83599a3b70b5e0d704840ab46🔍
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09099-4
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:12:01 AM No.16715615
they don't seem to understand bohmian mechanics
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1104.1298
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:15:46 PM No.16715960
>>16715615
Could you help us physicistlets out and tell us what you think the Nature paper got wrong?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:06:26 PM No.16715993
>>16715960
>Therefore, a vanishing vS not only indicates non-directionality but also implies that the particles are at rest.
it's an expected value, and even if it wasn't an average velocity of zero doesn't imply the average speed of a particle is zero. this is easily understood by touching base with boltzmann-maxwell distributions. a quick glance at the authors affiliation reveals they're not physicists. a deeper dive shows the last author is the PI
https://people.utwente.nl/j.klaers?tab=overview
where we see several red flags regarding phd and master experience. i checked what programs might he have done in bonn for a phd, and their quantum optics program is an even bigger red flag.

basically, it's not a physics paper.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:09:49 AM No.16716129
>>16715552 (OP)
Some articles on the paper:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02110-y

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01765-x
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:10:52 AM No.16716131
>>16715993
>Literally no arguments
Lol, lmao. Pathetic.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:55:38 AM No.16717160
quote-consciousness-is-much-more-of-the-implicate-order-than-is-matter-yet-at-a-deeper-level-david-bohm-132-49-66-1402822425
>>16715552 (OP)
Love that lill nigga
Bohm is bae
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:47:22 AM No.16717228
>>16717160
You love him, eh? Would you give him a kissy-wissy if he asked?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:32:14 AM No.16717986
>>16717160
looks kinda like gandalf actor as a yoounger man
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:03:21 PM No.16719694
>>16715552 (OP)

Qbistsisters keep winning.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:09:03 PM No.16719698
>>16715552 (OP)
How does this affect me in my day to day life?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:46:37 PM No.16719714
>>16719698
You will be able to give condescending looks to the many Bohmians in your life.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:18:39 PM No.16719736
>>16717160
This is the problem with the self-professed 'materialists' of the marxist kind. They're not real materialists at all. We physicalist materialists would all be very glad if these marxist pseudo-spiritualists just stopped associating themselves with us. Thanks.