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One Big Beautiful Booster

‘member musk’s melty?

ABORT ABORT

THIS FUCKING THREAD WAS UP EARLIER ASSHOLE.

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>>16716025
NO TAX ON RE-ENTRY
NO TAX ON RE-USE

>AAAAAA YES WE SHOULD AAAAAHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0TNQooM_E
>Starship Problems What Would Falcon 9 Do?

Musk might need to do a real housecleaning at SpaceX at some point, hopefully as soon as possible

>>16716049
>close flyby to Mars
we are being surveyed

>>16716050

>>16716059
he needs to unfuck himself first

6-9 months in the swamp was not enough I guess

>>16716059
Yeah they should boot that elon guy to the curb he’s a fag and a distraction to the mars cause

SO when is the next starship flight?

>>16716074
two weeks (its going to blow up again)

JeetX

>>16716053
Doomers will be doomers.
I think the main issue is that Spacex got way ahead of their flight cadence with hardware design. They're stuck trying to retro-fix design flaws on ships that were mostly built when the flight of a predecessor revealed that flaw.
V2 is a bungle for sure. It was meant to be a test bed for the heat shield and payload deployment, but ended up having its own problems that got in the way of those goals. The upside is that they can just keep doing it until it werks.

>>16716035
lol retard

>>16716077
Platonic solids are the secret to superluminal travel. first we need to solve angle trisection

Will she really be the first human on Mars?

>>16716085
She doesn't look Chinese to me.

>>16716086
Dunno anon, looks like there might be some slanty eye mixed in there somewhere.

>>16716088
Fuck me! That's a jumpscare! She looked a lot different in the first pic...

There was a weird period before covid where upper middle class kids were being pushed in the media as being astronauts training to go to Mars. I'm sure someone made a bunch of money off of it.

>>16716088
>Issacwoman

>>16716059
MBAs OUT
>>16716073
KETAMINE OUT

You guys' tongue is so far up the musky asshole, yoy can taste the ketamine.
Stole that from tundraf00t.

Anyway: bwaaaahahhahahahahhahahaahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
Ahahahahahhhhhaaaaaaahahha
Hahahahahhahahahahaha
I. Told. You. So.
Get fucked, capeshit worshippers

>>16716080
ai slop

>>16715949
2 fuckable holes = men
3 fuckable holes = women

>>16716059
>Musk might need to do a real housecleaning
Why would he? He doesn't even think about SpaceX anymore

The Golden Dome missile defense project received $25 billion (out of a further $175bn that is still being worked out).
NASA will also receive $10bn for FY2025.

>>16716078
The main issue is DOGE
Elon should never have started that time wasting project

>>16716150
Well, he's no longer involved in it, so you can stop bitching about it being the main issue

if I could turn back tiiimeee

>>16716160
When I say "THANKS" you say "OBAMA"
Ready?
THANKS

>>16716154
Whether he's involved is irrelevant, it kicked off a new hyperfixation AND he perceives that he lost. I don't think he'll kick this before he dies.

Mars in 2026!

>>16716185
hydrox

>>16716149
>NASA will also receive $10bn for FY2025
so their budget got cut by 66%?

>>16716187
trust in the plan

>>16716187

The BBB. And it's all Old Space Artemis graft.

>>16716176
This
Maybe someone else will eventually get cheap reusable spacecraft working but for now Elon is out of that game

>>16716187

>>16716194
Stoke space is gonna do it unless the chinoids beat them to it.

>>16716202
Stoke Space will not do it. They are jokers.
Their vehicle will basically have zero payload to useful orbit, and sadly they wontave the capital to make a Starship scale vehicle. Suchs becuase their vehicle design isfundamentally better than Starship.

>>16716050
ooo
leel cocc
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Captcha not required

>>16716210
Jew

>>16716078
>It was meant to be a test bed for the heat shield and payload deployment
It was also meant to test the new flap design. It's been over half a year and we still don't know how they perform.

>>16716163
OBONGO

>>16716187
Their workforce shrank by 17% so far

>>16716149
I don't trust these numbers, they're headline numbers

Reading the bill that passed the House now
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-171/issue-114/house-section/article/H3059-1

> ``(1) In general.--The Secretary of Transportation shall
> impose a fee, which shall be deposited in the account
> established under subsection (b), on each launch or reentry
> carried out under a license or permit issued under section
> 50904 during 2026 or a subsequent year, in an amount equal to
> the lesser of--
> ``(A) the amount specified in paragraph (2) for the year
> involved per pound of the weight of the payload; or
> ``(B) the amount specified in paragraph (3) for the year
> involved.
> ``(2) Paragraph (2) specified amount.--The amount specified
> in this paragraph is--
> ``(A) for 2026, $0.25;
> ``(B) for 2027, $0.35;
> ``(C) for 2028, $0.50;
> ``(D) for 2029, $0.60;
> ``(E) for 2030, $0.75;
> ``(F) for 2031, $1;
> ``(G) for 2032, $1.25;
> ``(H) for 2033, $1.50; and
> ``(I) for 2034 and each subsequent year, the amount
> specified in this paragraph for the previous year increased
> by the percentage increase in the consumer price index for
> all urban consumers (all items; United States city average)
> over the previous year.
> ``(3) Paragraph (3) specified amount.--The amount specified
> in this paragraph is--
> ``(A) for 2026, $30,000;
> ``(B) for 2027, $40,000;
> ``(C) for 2028, $50,000;
> ``(D) for 2029, $75,000;
> ``(E) for 2030, $100,000;
> ``(F) for 2031, $125,000;
> ``(G) for 2032, $170,000;
> ``(H) for 2033, $200,000; and
> ``(I) for 2034 and each subsequent year, the amount
> specified in this paragraph for the previous year increased
> by the percentage increase in the consumer price index for
> all urban consumers (all items; United States city average)
> over the previous year.

Holy fuck MarsComm is BACK 20 years late
Artemis may be getting "cut" from NASA's budget to save science and appropriated separately
>``(a) In General.--In addition to amounts otherwise
> available, there is appropriated to the Administration for
> fiscal year 2025, out of any money in the Treasury not
> otherwise appropriated, $9,995,000,000, to remain available
> until September 30, 2032, to use as follows:
> ``(1) $700,000,000, to be obligated not later than fiscal
> year 2026, for the procurement, using a competitively bid,
> firm fixed-price contract with a United States commercial
> provider (as defined in section 50101(7)), of a high-
> performance Mars telecommunications orbiter--
> ``(A) that--
> ``(i) is capable of providing robust, continuous
> communications for--

> ``(I) a Mars sample return mission, as described in section
> 432(3)(C) of the National Aeronautics and Space
> Administration Transition

>>16716244
>nearly a billion for a single mars satellite
a fucking joke

>>16716243
The real funny thing about this is that when the ISS gets deorbited SpaceX will have to pay this fee calculated based on the entire weight of the ISS

>>16716243

> (H) for 2033, $1.50
> Every Starship 100 ton launch gets hit with $330,000 in Space Tax. Plus tip.

How's pissing off Trump working out for you, Elon?

rent seeking should be a hangable offense

>>16716249
the company doesnt pay that, the customers do, aka the taxpayers

>>16716252

Anon, most of what SpaceX launches is SpaceX junk. Elon is going to pay billions. Think of all that fuel he has to send up for Mars 2026.

>>16716253
starlink's customers will pay the tax
starship's customers will pay the tax
spacex doesnt pay it

Remember Elon has a goal for Starship cargo priced at $10 per kilo. Now he'll have to add $4 per kilo in tax.

>>16716021 (OP)
what is the hold up on JWST finding signs of life on exoplanets by looking for photosynthesizing signs via the spectra that pass through the atmos of exoplanets wtf are they waiting for

>>16716256

SpaceX is the overwhelming biggest customer of SpaceX. If you don't even understand that basic fact stop posting.

>>16716259
go ahead, explain it then

>import/export tax for going to the void of space

yeah, I think we do need to unfuck this planet first

>>16716258
They have already found it, but the implications are troubling, so they're keeping it quiet

>>16716253
Maybe Elon should try shitting his pants on twitter
It might work this time

I was out of this general (and spaceflight news) for like 3 months
what the fuck happened? people used to worship starship here

>>16716294
we're in the 'cord

>>16716294
well it exploded. then the next one exploded too. and the next one also exploded. I forget how many in all.
oh and Elon decided to singlehandedly ruin America's soft power that had been built up over the past 130 years

>>16716294
They started exploding and Elon didn't seem to care, just kept posting cringe. So there's been a vibe shift where Starbase now seems like a ghost town on the verge of collapse

>>16716258
the cool worlds guy stated it's pretty much impossible for the jwst to confirm oxygen with a reasonable certainty
jwst was built mainly for deep field stuff, the exoplanet shit was mostly marketing hype really

spehs

Fuck Mars we are venus flyby now

>>16716294
we still do, it's just that we use ironic doomposting as a way of coping. it's either that or rope.

>>16716301
A professor told me he thinks JWST is more likely to find an atmospheric technosignature before a biosignature because of the ambiguity problem involved with the latter.

Elon personally complicit is drug trafficking to innocent elementary school kids.

>More money for SLS
>Science gutted
Is there any upside to the new NASA budget?

>>16716335
the pendulum swinging back will be glorious

>>16716062
>we are being surveyed
As we have been for a very long time.

>>16716335
Manned spaceflight is getting more money instead of circle jerking looking through a telescope

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1941254713791611036

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1941258165053686166

>>16716354
I'm not clicking your fucking xitter links elon, on 4chan we post screenshots of things so adv*rtisers don't get free clicks

>>16716355

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRvzLL21j1o

>>16716360
Well since starship isn't happening this side of 2030 I'm not against this at all

>>16716335
Made a bunch of scientists politically active in a way that hasn't been seen since the cold war

>>16716335
More money for spaceflight
Less money for sightseeing missions
What's NOT to like?

new physicsgirl video is up

why do jews have such big boobs

>>16716369
spaceflight

>>16716370

>>16716079
>he only sees the US as a propositional state that will serve his interests and not a people with a shared ethos and history.
He's completely right and it absolutely doesn't have a shared ethos.
America is, unfortunately, full of Earthers.

>>16716371
She has a really nice voice. So does that Forczyk woman. Love these Jewish fertility goddesses.

>>16716381
lol
listening to a woman speak at all makes me just want to turn it off

What if Flight 10 blows up again?

>>16716369
it's spelled noses not boobs

>>16716369
The rabbis of the middle ages bent all their efforts towards breeding women with the biggest tits you have ever seen.

If Titan didn't have the shitty yellow clouds it would have a beautiful blue sky and a view of Saturn.

> What if asteroid 2024 YR4 actually hit the Moon? The Moon phase at impact will be 70% illuminated, waning gibbous on December 22nd, 2032 around 15:20 Universal Time (UT), the approximate time that 2024 YR4 will be in the vicinity of the Moon. Viewing would favor the Pacific Ocean region… though it's uncertain at this point just what area of the Moon the asteroid would strike, if it hits the Moon at all. Certainly, the near nighttime side would be favorable for observation. The asteroid will be approaching the Earth from the direction of Sagittarius (the same constellation the Sun crosses in late December).

>>16716260
Most SpaceX launches are for SpaceX satellites for SpaceX's Starlink.

>>16716441
this will also be the case for the mars colony most likely at least initially (which might take a while)
so the tax really sucks

When Spectrum 2?

>>16716363
LOL, being politically active is what got them in trouble in the first place.

>>16716442
Space companies lobbied for the tax as it was the under capacity of the regulatory offices that were holding them back. The money is going for more people in those offices to speed up approvals.
>hur dur, NASA budget smaller
That's why this tax is specifically for increasingly the processing speed of regulators, most of whom aren't even in NASA. That NASA will cut science missions so it can continue to be a taxpayer slush fund for things that were cut when USAID was ended instead of cutting all that crap so the science missions can live is all you need to know about the agency. At this point it might be too damaged to recover. Move its actual government assigned responsibilities off to other agencies. Maybe something like JPL can be deep cleaned and become the smaller, successor agency in charge of the science missions, with rocketry over in USSF and the FAA.

How fucked was ULA before GD?

https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1941207652916183405

lol

>>16716457
>4D CHESS TURST THE PALN!

>>16716385
you know it will.

>>16716448
probably like 5 years from bankruptcy after Kuiper launches ran out and there were more active competitors for national security launches (BO, rocket lab, maybe Stoke or relativity even)

>>16716461
and I mean if those competitors come, I don't think ULAs future is safe even if there are some big projects like the golden dome
how many companies do you need for redundancy? if ULA is the most expensive out of 5 companies or something then giving them launches with the argument of redundancy doesnt really make sense

>>16716258
It doesn't have the capability. We are very far from getting an image of any exoplanet that is any more than 1 pixel across.
At 100 LY you need a 500km telescope to image it at 100x100 pixel resolution--about the size of a small icon. That is a physical limit based on the wavelength of light.
The best we could do is build a space-based optical interferometer with two nodes 500 kilometers apart, but synchronized to 1 wavelength.

>>16716457
doubt.avif

>>16716258
See:
>>16716456
>>16716460
>>16716467
>>16716471

>>16716187
Doesn’t make money. If only welfare and healthcare were treated the same, you’d make real savings.

>>16716472
wow, so astronomy is basically a scam

>>16716243
>a new thing? More opportunity to tax!
Taxation is theft, there is not counter argument to this simple statement of irrefutable fact.

>>16716489
How about a race? Who will find life on an exoplanet first, astronomers or spacecraft?

>>16716247
NASA is welfare for scientists to stop them working in enemy nations manufacturing cruise missiles etc.

>>16716259
Taxes make doing things more expensive. Taxes are retarded.

>>16716497
Life will be discovered in a mind numbingly gradual process, especially if it is not found in our solar system but instead in other star systems. Hundreds of differerent obervers over decades or even centuries would have a claim to being the one.

>>16716468
>his wealth is just luck

>>16716505
Why would it take decades, or centuries?

>>16716510
There will be a lot of coping over the results

>>16716509
He got rich way before entering the k hole

>>16716510
What can you do that is a 100% confirmation of life? Each obervation just lightly elevates the probability that what you are seeing is life.
Concluding that life exists on a planet will be extremely hard, I would wager that it's completely imposible using distant obervations alone. All you can do is create a candidate selection of potentially inhabited planets which is slightly better than throwing probes out at complete random. Even then you would miss out a great many worlds with life and select a huge numbe of false positives.
In all liklihood we have the urvivorship bias of living on an EXTREMELY habitable planet which is infested from tip to bottm with life. Most inhabited planets will probably live their lives with much smaller organic populations and weaker biosignatures.
Then there is the challenge that an alien biosphere could be very different from Earth life. Under those circumstance you could land a probe on the planet and pick up a scoop of life, yet the results still be inconclusive.
Life is made up of the same material as the planet and relies on natural chemical processes, which is the big challenge. You can never prove it without a shadow of a doubt.

>>16716187
>so their budget got cut by 66%?
How are they supposed to fund DEI projects and global-warming grift with such a restricted budget?

>>16716511
>build and send rover that predates the invention of the VHS VCR
>add water to perchlorates
>they release CO2
>cook them out of existence and add water again
>no CO2
>unable to find any more signs of life with rovers built after the adoption of CDs
Why does anyone still reference the viking experiment

>>16716523
Nobody has tried looking for life since Viking

>>16716523
prove that it didnt scoop up the last surviving life on mars and kill it. I'll wait.

>>16716521
>Most inhabited planets will probably live their lives with much smaller organic populations and weaker biosignatures.
This is likely not true due to the presence of extremophiles. We've found bacteria in an asphalt lake. We've found things that breathe sulfur and eat pyrite 8000 feet down a mine. If extremophiles can live there in low energy conditions then any planet with sunlight anywhere will have a population that takes advantage of it right up to the limit of physics.

>>16716521
>What can you do that is a 100% confirmation of life?
A discovery doesn't have to mean you are absolutely sure. No discovery is every 100%. Something like a habitable zone planet with oxygen, ozone, methane and the vegetation red edge would be pretty convincing.
>In all liklihood we have the urvivorship bias of living on an EXTREMELY habitable planet which is infested from tip to bottm with life. Most inhabited planets will probably live their lives with much smaller organic populations and weaker biosignatures.
You cannot conclude that from one datapoint. It is most sensible to look for earth-analogs, if they don't exist then you can consider other scenarios. Life has colonized every part of the earth, even underground and in space, because it's advantageous to adapt and spread. Probably other habitable biospheres are similarly packed. There may be lots of borderline planets, but who knows until people actually go and look.

>>16716526
>prove that it didnt scoop up the last surviving life on mars and kill it. I'll wait.
That's retarded.
No offense.

>>16716523
Part of the problem was that these experiments were conducted in the late 70s on mars, and perchlorates weren’t discovered until phoenix looked for them in like circa 2008. So let’s call it 30 years of unexpected results, with no mechanism to disprove it. On top of that the lead science investigator for these experiments, Gilbert Levin, was a delusional hopium holdout warrior who immediately made up his mind that this was life and strong-armed it into the literature for thirty years.
There were plenty of skeptics then, thankfully. And nowadays I’d say most people realize the overall invalidity of the experiment. It still gets referenced today, I suppose, for the same reason people are hanging on to QI or believe the ‘wow!’ signal. They want to believe.

>>16716534
Perchlorates actually strengthen the case for life, by explaining one of the odd Viking results that appeared to disprove life

>>16716525
Perseverance can do it with its raman spectrometer, which Curiosity lacked; of course it isn’t going to find anything :/

>>16716536
Holy cope

>>16716527
we didnt know about extremophiles for a long time becaue they are quite diffuse in the places they inhabt. So a planet with those kinds of conditions would probably have less life.
It's like how people alledge Mars to have life, but if it does it's carrying capacit i clearly far below Earth. My feeling is that Earth is in something like the top 0.01% of most habitable worlds, and we imply exist her becaue our kind of complex multicellular life would be impossible anywhere else.

>>16716540
They're diffuse because of the available energy, I'm saying. Similarly hostile environments under direct sunlight might be as busy as our biosphere is.

>>16716441
>Most SpaceX launches are for SpaceX satellites for SpaceX's Starlink.
WHO DO YOU THINK PAYS FOR STARLINK PROTIP ITS NOT SPACEX

>>16716546
14675 Lee Rd, Chantilly, VA 20151, United States

>>16716511
man vikings got everywhere first

>>16716521
Extraterrestrial life is such a big attraction that even when next generation telescopes make a detection of a possible biosignature with a high confidence value (greater than 5 sigma), the confidence is only in comparison to it being pure chance or noise in the data. There will never be an end to the quest for negative niggers to conjure up a novel method that can also explain the data points - even if it doesn't align as well with the data, it'll be enough to be plausible, and the scientific community will pretty much always err on the side of Nothing Ever Happening

>>16716082
just buy a protractor

>>16716565
the more stars you survey the most false positives you should expect with the same level of confidence

>>16716565
Why does this sum up the astro community so well?

>>16716100
Of those whose names are known, they all end up getting Exobiology or Astrobiology degrees from marginal schools instead of getting into an astronaut training program. While lower standards for astronauts means those degrees might satisfy some mission specialist requirement, the schools they choose and the lack of rigor in the degree filters them out. So much bluster over these rich kids just for them ending up as school teachers or foundation grifters. Oh, and of course "science communicators".

https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/why-does-spacex's-starship-keep-exploding

>>16716583
unless it tells us the real reason why (corruption) then its a junk article

>>16716583
>what's wrong
Simple, v2 is piece of shit.

>>16716585
They only talk about the engineering side of things. It's actually decent, and not a smear piece.

>>16716588
the engineering is a symptom of the real disease: corruption

>>16716588
>goes wrong the same way twice
(3 times actually (three))

>>16716589
What is the corruption in SpaceX?

Aerospace sucks and I'm switching majors

>>16716594
Do it for Israel, goy.

>>16716583
>Engine tech is immature
>TPS worse than Shuttle
>highly questionable method for pressurization
>bandaid-fix of very difficult problems in aerospace
wHy DoEs iT kEep BlOwiNg Up?
lol on a serious note tho i love spacex

>>16716590
THOSE WERE DIFFERENT CAUSES SHUT UPPPPPP

good morning space friends

>>16716656
good morning saar

>>16716656
It might be the 5th today, but it's still the 4th in my heart.

>>16716667
what is moe

>>16716583
>says Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer and astrophysicist

>>16716668
Usually a guy who makes donuts or coffee.

>>16716021 (OP)

Rapidly reusable suborbital rockets. Just build a giant LEO Station with a skyhook

>>16716668
he's that guy from the simpsons

Is there any reason to use the moons of Mars as storage depots? Maybe a place to store fuel? Would it make sense to have ships designed specifically for going between Mars and depots on its moons instead of having "everything" ships?

>>16716668
Montgomery Office Equipment, the defunct but once largest supplier of office equipment in central Alabama.

>>16716757
not really, it takes dv to go in and out of them, and they don't have much gravity to land on them
on the chart you posted, you have to go back and forth between the "intercept" circles to visit them, that's more than half what it takes to get from Mars to LMO

>>16716753
You could honestly probably do a reverse skyhook station and catch starships coming back from lunar and martian orbit. Hardest part would be timing the hook to spin around and line up as the starship comes flying in, but this could probably be calculated pretty easily by fine-tuning the hook spin speed once the incoming spaceship gets within like fifteen mins of needing to be caught.
Ship comes flying in, catches hook, brakes slow the hook spinning down, so ship slows to manageable speed and cuts the energy requirements for a thermal protection system into a fraction of what would otherwise be needed

>>16716757
If Mars was producing something for export back to Earth, it might make sense since the those moons are always the same distance from Mars (more or less) while Earth-Mars ships are only going to travel during certain windows. For items coming from Earth, going to Mars, it might make sense in certain cases where landing facilities on Mars are filled at the time. That assumes eventual port facilities and not just raw dog landing on bare soil.

>>16716522
>DEI projects and global-warming grift
>MSR cancelled
>Nancy Grace cancelled
>Dragonfly funding delayed until the next budget in 2029
>Chandra cancelled
>HWO funding reduced by 81%
>PDCO and NEO Surveyor also facing cuts
KYS, the BBB is a fuckup designed around Artemis grift and Ted Cruz's shuttle obsession

>>16716783
you're replying to a troll m8

fuck you

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930

>>16716570
kek

>>16716790
wake up babe, new reich just dropped

what is the America Party's stance on spaceflight?

>>16716588

> Blows up in flight
> They fix it
> Blows up in flight again
> They fix in
> Blows up on the ground. Just sitting there partially fueled. The engines weren't even firing when it happened.

>>16716790
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_the_United_States_of_America

>>16716790
Fuck. This retard will actually blow his entire net worth spinning his wheels in politicla mud. It's over.

It is now safe to bet against Elon.

>>16716802
No

>>16716546

> No I don't understand the difference between assured costs and potential revenues! Why is everyone looking at me?

>>16716800
>>16716801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS2Bsq5PDmU

>>16716790
A party like this can only work if it steals voters from *both* major parties and in roughly equal numbers.

stop doing democracy

>>16716790

Lord, what a spastic mess he has become. Hope this is something that can be fixed with less drugs, more drugs or different drugs.

"Hey hey -- run for your lives!"

>>16716790
How can he simultaneously complain about Soros' influence and act the complete opposite way

>>16716795
all "blows up" are the same to midwits

>>16716794
To expensive, maybe when the deficit is down. Israel is not too expensive though.

>>16716819
>oh noes you can't do that
>you're supposed to be stuck for months
>that's what tendert0e tells me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs1ic-neuWc

>>16716820
He wants to be the power behind the throne. He thought he achieved his goal with Trump and had a melty when Trump escaped Elon's flaccid grasp. He doesn't like Soros because Soros is able to achieve the level of control that Musk, even with his wealth, cannot come close to having.

>>16716824

> Our jank rocket exploded while just sitting there partially fueled.
> Let's try that again, with improvised equipment and improvised procedures, racing a self inflicted arbitrary deadline.

>>16716790
Glad all the indians and ian miles cheong answered his poll. Faggot.

>>16716833
kino

>>16716827
Since you can read minds, what color am I thinking of right now?

>>16716839
Robin’s egg blue

>>16716839
shit brown
It's the only color you ever think about

>>16716851
Holy fuck, you got it right!

>>16716831
?
It's an assembly line
You build, and blow shit up
Eventually it'll work, build faster and faster

>>16716790
Yeah we're not getting off this rock in my lifetime.

>>16716858
Space age cancelled due to niggers

>>16716860
A tale as old as time.

>>16716607
The TPS has caused exactly zero Starship failures

>>16716856

> Eventually it'll work!

Do you see the flaw in your logic? There are few examples of "the more it fails the better it works'. It's just Elon Buzz his drones suck up.

>>16716790
>start a poll
>on your own site
>announced to your fanbois
totally fair and accurate poll

>>16716903
that's probably the dumbest fucking thing elon does, he of all people should be astutely aware that like .1% of social media users contribute to their platform, and of that .1% 80% of them are losers, idiots, or trolls, which is why they're wasting their time writing reddit or X posts in the first place

>>16716872
Don't worry, it's just waiting its turn. It has the next 10 flights to easily rear its ugly head and ruin missions.

I had a dream that the booster missed the tower and exploded but somehow didn't cause any damage to the launch site
In my dream Elon posted o_O on twitter in response

>>16716912
Ehh not realistic. Elon would have forgotten there was a launch happening

>>16716912
ive had multiple dreams about failed starship launches

Is it officially over?

>>16716921
Yes

Holy fuckin shit, he's going to install himself emperor

>>16716924
holy reddit

>>16716924
>this amount of cringe from Elon

>>16716924
Deport

>>16716921
Space and Mars is cancelled. Now you get to babysit 3rd worlders until the sun goes nova.
At least I don't have that many years left in me, thank fuck.

>>16716924

>>16716924
@Grok can you simplify and rephrase this using an example from the Marvel Avengers?

>>16716371
someone do a webm of her outrage that we would dare take a Space Shuttle away from New York City.

>>16716461
and Kuiper itself was a massive crutch, thanks mostly to Bezos' rivalry with fellow billionaire Musk.

Just sell everything and become the world's fattest PAC. Set SpaceX free. Set Tesla free. He won't set twitter free because he needs the platform for his political party. Set Neuralink free. Set The Boring Company free. Cash them all in, except the propaganda machine twitter and go do the political thing while SpaceX charts its own course.

I want neuralink to feed me footage like this while I fentanyl fold in my Tesla rape van with a solar roof driving through a boring tunnel on my way to modern day Leuctra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1XAbl19quk&t=316s

>>16716827
You misunderstand, I'm asking how he can be aware of a perfect example of money buying political power and instead of copying it he's making a fool of himself

>>16716924
oh god it's so fucking cringe

>>16716924
They're just going to kill him.

>>16716958
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. They're going to let him flail around pointlessly as much as he wants.

>>16716817
kek, based knower

>>16716783
>>16716784
>You're trolling.
No, I most certainly am not.
NASA has been using tax money to push POLITICS for decades now.
They brought this shit on themselves.
You can whine to me all day about such and such a program getting cancelled, but if they hadn't blown that money on LGBT awareness and pushing the AGW narrative, and had instead DONE THEIR FUCKING JOB, which is getting us to space, they'd be just fine right now.
35 years of hiring incompetent employees to meet diversity quotas will cause a lot of serious budget overruns.
My pity for them is zero. So is my pity for anyone who watched them being shills for the blue agenda and cheered it on instead of denouncing it.

>>16716958
I wish he had built the Starship fleet first, because no one is going to kill the fucking guy who has megatons of propellant waiting in orbit for the signal to rain down on his enemies

>>16716964
lmao you're terrible at this

>>16716964
>boo hooo I'm a big conservitard crybaby who lives in fear of libruhuls and DEI.
you are the sloppiest of the slop of humanity. none of what you criticize is actually real

So is information lost in a black hole?

>>16716924
It has never been this categorically over

>>16716970
>You live in fear!
No, my side keeps winning and yours is getting shut down.
BBB passed, bitch. You lose yet again.
Hey, you should try protesting!

>>16716983
you're a dumbass, anon.

>>16716964
I literally can't take anyone that denies climate change seriously, like I actually just laugh at it. It's like a flerfer but somehow even more pathetic because they are even MORE smug and retarded than flerfers.

yay more /pol/ infection in /sfg/, I sure do love it when /pol/ slop shits up my favorite general.
can't you all go back

>>16716964
hmmm, anon, let's think for a second, even though you lack a brain.
What is easier. 1. removing the boogyman 'quotas' you think have been ruining NASA for 35 years (if they exist), or 2. cancelling probes, research, and the like outright because they're somehow political? Studying the cosmos is political?
maybe, just maybe, you are a dolt who is mentally corrupted by us vs them shit? I bet if I poke and prod you enough you'll show your true colors, wanting to mass murder liberals or something. there was one of those sorts of posters a few threads back.

>>16716924
Just like usual, Elon will prove all the doubters wrong. Heil Hitler

>>16716992
Yes, the people complaining that NASA got it's DEI cut should go back to /pol/ but /sfg/ seems to love them and agree that DEI is NASA's primary mission.

>>16716997
>DEI is NASA's primary mission.
where do you fucking people come from? why are you here?
I can't tell if you're just stupid annoying trolls or assholes from /pol/. Probably both.
You're like a goddamn robot. beep boop DEI DEI DEI beep boop
go away

>>16716997
>NASA got it's DEI cut
UHHHGGGG OHH YEAHHHH BABY INJECT THE ONE AMERICA NEWS NETWORK PROPAGANDA INTO MY VEINS AHHHH YEEEEEEEAAHHHHH

>>16716994
see
>>16716197
This empirically exists. You ignore reality because it doesn't match what you wish were true. This isn't reddit where reality is determined by votes. "You" were given a chance to clean up your act but you put your ideology ahead of science. Now there are consequences for science due to your ideological campaigning. The faster you cease and desist in using NASA as a tool for pushing your identity politics on society, the faster it can go back to doing science. But we both know you'll never willingly give up public funding for your politics.

>>16717002
I love how you have to point to a boring-ass pride month assortment of standard Biden admin-type pride events to "prove" your schizophrenic point. Like there is actually zero way to argue with you. If you even SEE a pride flag you immediately foam at the mouth and want to take a hammer to everything even tangentially connected to it.

You're a fucked up person, anon. Actually deranged.

>>16716197
I know for sure this event didn't cost fifteen billion dollars

>>16717002
Oh wait wait wait guys this is actually awesome, so if I understand this correctly, if any massive organization, like NASA or NSF or the Air Force or Universities or whatever have held, at any point in their past, even the most white-bread pride events, that gives us free rein to annihilate that organization from the top-down? Awesome! I'll keep that in mind. what a neat trick.

hold on folks, 4chan has a /lgbt/ boat it funds with MY pass dollars? How dare they. The faster 4chan cease and desist in using pass money as a tool for pushing identity politics on society, the faster it can go back to doing imageboarding.

give it to me straight bros. How many weeks until Elon gives a shit about Starship again?

>>16717002
"I don't want science missions to be canceled"
>"NOOOO THAT MEANS, ACCORDING TO MY GAY-DAR, YOU'RE SECRETLY TRYING TO MAKE THE WORLD GAY WITH TAX DOLLARS AND THE SCIENCE IS REALLY A COVER STORY FOR IT. LET'S KILL NASA TO CLEANSE THE WORLD OF THE GAY"
"PROOF? YEAH UHHHHHH LOOK! NASA ONCE DID PRIDE EVENTS!"

brah

>>16717014
Starship is on hold until he fixes the US congress

>>16717014
sorry anon I found an image online of SpaceX once sponsoring a pride event in LA a few years back, that means according to my obergruppenführer's training the entire Starship program is DEI and must be eliminated

>>16717019
hate to see it

>>16717020
after all, this isn't reddit where reality is determined by votes. SpaceX put ideology ahead of science.

>>16716999

> Oh, the tranny is back.

Now he'll scream about "transvestigation".

>>16717024
can you at least post proof of DEI being NASA's 'primary mission'. that's a very tall accusation. Can you put a dollar value on to it? Which missions in particular have failed or gone over budget because of the occasional pride event at JSC?

I don't even fucking like pride events man, I just think your line of reasoning is absolutely insane and stupid. Fuck the BBB

its over
make sure to turn the lights off as we go

& as someone with a NASA PIV, I do get the daily event emails... The pride shit is like 1% of the non-'NASA' related stuff that goes on. Like should we also close our gym? No more pick-up soccer games at lunchtime? No more employee assistance programs? come on. This is NOT NEW either, hell even back in the 60s at nasa centers there were all sorts of clubs and events and whatnot. If you want EVERYTHING to go away, sure, but at least say as such. And then don't be surprised if the workforce doesn't like working in a Gilliam Brazil environment.
(fuck the BBB)

Yeah hes definetly getting disappeared by the FBI. What do we have as backup ideas for when SpaceX gets nationalized? Hook autist shut up for this one please.
>>16717026
Found Musk. Nobody likes you or your stupid political ideas. Go back to working on rockets and cars.

We spent so long laughing at russia’s disfortune in the industry that we missed the incoming megaton hammer of karma

>>16717028

> NASA tranny doesn't want you to complain about NASA tranny advocacy.

As long as you stay objective and don't do anything creepy

> He likes lunchtime 'pickup' soccer games so he can shower with teenage interns at work.

One job tranny.

Does /sfag/ think starship be ok?

I've trusted plans you people wouldn't believe

>>16717034
you aren't being funny or clever, or even believably cruel, just dumb.

I'm glad we've come to the point where it is impossible to criticize budget cuts without the /pol/ tranny-obsessed anon accusing everyone and everything. it sure makes for a good general experience. It's the equivalent of being unable to post mlp pictures.

What a wild mindset to have to live with

reply to me again, do it

>>16717038
If Trump did it, it's correct. If Elon did it, it's correct. If they seem to clash, it's 4d chess. I am always right and everything is always good.

>Come visit to ask something
>Already plenty of shitflinging about Elon
Perfect

If he left/got kicked out/retired/died/got abducted and stopped heading SpaceX, would anything change? It's not like it's been his top priority these past few years, and I just want to not have to care about anything he's doing while worrying about the flying metal tube industry.

>>16717037

Please stop being creepy NASA Tranny.

>>16717042
Unfortunately I do think the earlier SS program success was tied to him actually caring and being there 99% of the time. In other words, he is probably pretty crucial as chief engineer.
Not sure if the program could have ever moved this fast [from starhopper to SH tower catch] w/o Elon

>>16717044
Is it Elon specifically or just any engineer as a CEO? Have any companies had an actual engineer running them in the last 40 years? Currently SpaceX has no one at the wheel and competition is run by MBAs

>>16717043
can you point out the creepy? I feel like you are somehow reading every post here in a different context.
I don't really know how to respond to you. You don't say anything unique. It's all the same basic, boring "tranny!" retort whenever someone refuses to see the world through your stupid eyes. But if thinking that killing astrophysics missions somehow 'gets back' as 'da gays' then I guess that's just the sort of person you are

>>16717047
Just don't even reply man, he's clearly fucked up. Sometimes you encounter someone so disturbed you can just assume they're molested

>>16717046
From reading both of Berger's books about the company, it's Elon specifically. Seems like most spacex employees would agree, too.
His monumental autism is genuinely the secret sauce.

>>16717048
I find it useful to reply, in a cosmic sort of sense. People like him don't expect to get pushback on 4chan. People like him need to know this isn't a safe space for him. It's always fascinating to see how far the reply chain can degrade up to when I get a 3 day ban or whatever.
You can always auto-hide the whole chain. sorry

>>16717051

Oh, aren't you the brave little NASA tranny! Let's talk about you some more instead of Space stuff.

What could possibly go wrong? Not like these here rockets ever blow up.

>>16717054
can you answer this please? >>16717026
Alternatively, can you admit you want to punish NASA because in your eyes any association with LGBT means it's the devil or whatever? because that's a bit more believable than your shtick about 'hurrr all of the budget goes towards DEI so it's actually GOOD that we cut missions because it's REALLY just cutting DEI hurp'
Like start quoting bible versus, it would make you more honest

>>16717054
you're actually insufferable

>>16716924
Silly Elon, you don't solve political problems with engineering solutions.

>>16717054
>>16717038

>>16717026
>>16717016
>>16717008
>I know for sure this event didn't cost fifteen billion dollars
What should the proper cost for it be? I say ZERO. It should never have happened. NASA is for space exploration, not pushing woke retardation on the masses.

>>16717070
Ok, so how does that make the BBB good? Use your fucking brain

I can't help noticing that the people who are fine with NASA polluting their science with woke politics are the same exact ones who are angry about politics showing up in /sci/ threads.
Fucking hypocrites!

>>16717074
>NO YOU CAN'T FIRE ALL THE DIVERSITY HIRES FROM NASA!
>NO YOU CAN'T FIRE THE MANAGERS WHO WASTED SPACE MONEY ON PERVERT-MONTH ACTIVITIES!
>WHAT? YOU'RE DEFUNDING US? HOW DARE YOU!

>>16717009

>>16717081
and just like that you lose all credibility as a /sfg/ regular. go back to /pol/

>>16717083
it literally is that. this fucking retard in this thread can only point to a smattering of NASA pride events as his 'proof'. All he wants to do is punish gays. It has nothing to do with science, astrophysics missions, taxpayer dollars, or anything. It's a way for him to strike a blow for his ideology. It's gross

>same posting style as the guy that had the solar meltdown
anon get your t levels checked. you are incredibly emotional

>>16717076
can you please point to one example of science being polluted? I don't say this as a gotcha, I literally am curious if you truly believe it or are just trolling. Surely if this perversion of NASA is worth destroying the agency there should be overwhelming evidence that trannies are secretly sabotaging science missions left and right. let's see it?

I just like rockets man

>>16717086
how would you describe the emotions of people who are so brainwashed they make unironic posts about the " blue agenda " >>16716964
and " global-warming grift " >>16716522

I haven’t been on /sfg/ since s36 exploded. are we still dooming about that or is it something new?

>>16717089
I suggest reporting those that continually raid this general with political shitflinging then.
It's only going to get worse when the appropriations bills start being put together.
/pol/ really needs to be shoah'd

>>16717084
You go back to /lgbt/ first.

>>16717092
>I must silence those who disagree with me.

>>16717094
it's a brilliant trick you pull where you sprinkle in tranny shit in pseudo-trumper BBB supporting posts such that you can pull the 'you're a tranny' card whenever someone calls your bluff. It's actually genius.

>>16717095
& refusing to have a debate by just shutting down people with random tranny accusations isn't? The literal moment the /pol/ guy uses that word here it kills the possibility of discussion. See, we're still talking about it even like 40 posts in. It's a thread killer of a trick

>>16717088
Is NASA a cake-baking agency?
How about weaving rugs? Is that NASA's job?
What about reviewing new video games?
Designing new hair styles?
What about vocal jazz? Is that what NASA is for?
How about manufacturing pharmaceuticals?
(Stop me when I get to NASA's purpose.)
Promoting LGBT shit? Is that NASA's job?
What fraction of their budget should go to any of those?
The correct answer is fucking ZERO and you know it. We both know it.

I came into this thread and found anons apparently mystified why BBB slashes NASA's budget.
And I fucking answered. And they don't want to hear the truth. So I am being attacked.
The nice part is, I don't need you all to accept the truth. The budget is slashed and all you can do is seethe about it.

Go woke; go broke! Next time just do your fucking job.

>>16717099
you didn't answer my question. you are an awful human being.

>>16717100
Call me a poopie-head.

>>16717099
>And I fucking answered. And they don't want to hear the truth. So I am being attacked.
boo fucking hoo, now go back to /pol/, go complain to your oberführer wahhhh wahhhh oh no liberals on my 4chan?
I'm jewish btw

>>16717102
>GET OUT! I NEED YOU TO LEAVE MY SAFE SPACE! GET OUT! GET OUT!
no

>>16717099
>seethe
aw thank you anon! I finally got my /pol/ troll BINGO thanks to that zinger.

>>16717099
You're having an emotional meltdown. You're a crypto tranny. Men with the correct hormone levels don't behave this way. You're the tranny. Look at you, sweating in your chair, typing as fast as you can.

>>16717104
>I wasn't able to refute a single point you made, but here's me calling you names.
Powerful.

The solar power discussion was at least interesting. This blows.

>>16717105
>NO U!

>>16717103
you clearly don't like it here. you clearly think /sfg/ is fulllll of NASTY trannies who work at NASA and are slurping up your tax dollars to idk, eat babies? what is it you think they do?

>>16717106
what point. he just made some /pol/ verbal diarrhea. how am I supposed to respond to it.

>>16717110
>/sfg/ is fulllll of NASTY trannies who work at NASA
Not anymore.

>>16717107
what do you expect from trumpers. Dear Leader says trannies are the cause of their suffering, so obv the hint of anything rainbow or queer at NASA means BBB is the best thing since leaded gasoline.

>>16717111
that's the other funny thing, you somehow think that cutting the budget magically makes trannies go away because, even though you would be allllll for it, you can't just go around shooting them (or at least forcing them to quit). It does nothing to advance what you actually 'want'. If you want to kill trannies the government won't be doing it for you, sweetie

>>16717099
>I came into this thread
yeah, we can tell. what a nincompoop

>>16717113
>You think that slashing the budget will mean a bunch of people get fired?
I literally do, yes.

>>16717115
and mass firing is supposed to do what, exactly? how is that connected to your grand thesis of government-grade pride events for like two days a year = nasa bad. how does it do anything but shit up the agency for years to come. If you want to stop NASA from "baking cakes", which you apparently think is widespread, HOW DOES CANCELLING ASTROPHYSICS MISSIONS ACCOMPLISH THAT you fucking twat. oh I see, it's a "one drop" sort of thing, which you are no doubt familiar with. If there is a tranny within twelve nautical miles that means any space hardware must be scrapped?

>>16717099

notice how nobody bothered trying to refute you?

>>16717117
>mass firing is supposed to do what, exactly?
Unemployed trannies.

>>16717118
>notice how nobody bothered trying to refute you?
Yes, I noticed.

>>16717120
see, it is >>16717058
. You don't care about spaceflight. all you want to do is masturbate to the thought of punished trannies. And this is an easy way for you to do that, since you are deluded in thinking the government is on your side in the sense that BBB is just a cover story for getting rid of trannies? Literally no one in charge of writing the BBB gives two shits about trannies at NASA. the cuts are for more practically evil reasons, the gutting of American science.
you're messed up. keep replying though it's fun

>>16717121
>>16717118
refute what. can you put it into a concise post that isn't coded for only chuds to understand?

>>16717107
have you tried reporting posts?

>>16717123
>You don't care about spaceflight.
On the contrary. I would argue that NASA has been wasting a great deal of money that should have gone to spaceflight.

>>16717128
put a dollar value on it.
Oh you can't. because you're a fag

>>16717129
>put a dollar value on it.
66% of their previous budget.

>>16717132
you really are a terrible troll.

>>16717107
We must go down the biophotovoltaic autism skill tree. We could power a colony with a living battery

>>16717120

That'll do it. Let's enjoy the inevitable consequences from loss of their NASA paid tranny medical coverage. Won't even complain about that money going to Artemis.

>>16717135
you just aren't believable. you're too much of a /pol/ caricature at this point. tranny this tranny that. tranny tranny tranny. you give zero shits about spaceflight. go to a different thread.

>>16717138
Dude, that's not me.

guess we gotta throw the whole US into the trash can because for a couple days a month some of them queers walk around with signs

>>16717139
fuck you then too? congrats?

literal traitors are ripping America apart and selling it off but you're all SPOOKED by dudes chopping their dicks off and are therefore too rabid to see the light and see who your real enemies are. You've all lost to the MAGA propaganda. see the big fucking picture, retards

>>16717142
>ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

>>16717141
>daily mail
nigger

>>16717144
he should be hanged for traitorous acts, yes?

>>16717144
>>16717109
>>16717103
>>16717081
this is absurd

>>16717146
welcome to late-nite /polsfg/. Please enjoy your stay as the chuddies come out of the woodwork to talk about trannies for the next six hours.

>>16717147
I'd prefer a space elevator advocate to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uP-0oqmyiA

Here's NASA calling for open borders and more immigration:
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/466736main_AP_ST_HG_NASA20Immigration_101609.pdf#:~:text=The%20success%20of%20the%20nine-year%20long%20Apollo%20space,would%20be%20Wernher%20Von%20Braun%20and%20Eugene%20Cernan.

>>16717151
wow anon! NASA celebrates pride month! good work finding that! Wow, I am demoralized. We must cut the astrophysics division by 68%. Nice job. I would have never known my tax dollars were going towards p*ide month.

Somehow I think that if NASA were promoting pro-life politics and White pride, the left would be less offended by cutting its budget.

>>16717154
Did you even read that, you fucking moron?
It does not say that. it says the HDI is impacted by immigration. No fucking shit.
you're actually retarded. You're scrambling to find shreds of 'proof' for your NASA IS GAYYYYYYYY theory. give it up. go back to /pol/ and then shoot yourself in the head for us, thanks

>>16717155
Is Blue Origin an agency of the US federal government like NASA is?
If your answer is no, then your example is invalid.
(Possible answers are "no," "let's talk about anything else so I don't lose the arguement," or just pretending you didn't see this post.

Hey, umm, can both of you go somewhere else? Thanks~!

>>16717159
>I'll try lying.

>>16717162
>Hey, umm, can both of you go somewhere else? Thanks~!
Please, don't let me stop you from introducing other topics.
I checked into the thread and people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.
I never meant that to be the only topic of discussion here.

>>16717162
I'll stop when he stops. Or when he gets banned.

>>16717161
here's the army celebrating pride month with your tax dollars. Let's cut them by 66% too, I guess? It'll make the trannies quit!

>>16717163
IT IS A FUCKING 3 PARAGRAPH BLURB FROM A GRADE-9 CURRICULUM THINGY TALKING ABOUT HDI YOU FUCKING RETARD. IT DOES NOT MENTION OPEN BORDERS. YOU ARE EITHER PURPOSEFULLY LYING OR R E T A R D E D

>>16717165
>Or when he gets banned.
For?

>>16717164
>people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.
You are such goddamn slime. you're actual excrement. you have zero truthful or honest bones in your body.
you must feel so fucking smug that you got a rise out of all of this?
that you revealed to us the TRUTH, that congress actually secretly wants trannies to quit NASA and that the easiest way to do that was to cut the budget?
No kiddo, lol, no one believes you. you're just a hateful faggot who likes getting (you)s and talking about trannies

>>16717164
>one administration pushes their agenda on an agency
>the next administration deletes several of the agency's projects
No, this doesn't track at all

>>16717166
trolololol

>>16717165
>here's the army celebrating pride month with your tax dollars. Let's cut them by 66% too, I guess? It'll make the trannies quit!
No need. Trump was able to directly ban transgenders from the military and order the military to stop promoting LGBT.
I thought you knew.

>>16717165
forgot my picture

>>16717170
tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny oh no the trannnieeeessssssssssss what shall we ever do about the Tranny Problem? We need a final solution.


>people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.
>people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.
>people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.
>people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.
>people were trying to figure out why NASA's budget got wiped out, so I explained.

OH IT WAS THE TRANNIES ALL ALONG I KNEW IT

>>16717171
>Posts picture from 2024 under biden.
You do know it's 2025 now and Donald J. Trump is the democratically elected President of the United States, right?

>>16717173
I never said it was under drumpft.

Save me robert bigelow

>>16717174
>I never said it was under drumpft.
Well he was also able to directly order the DOD to stop promoting LGBT.
Again, I assumed you knew that.

ok I have some questions.
1. if there are no pride events at NASA, can they keep their budget?
2. what if there are no pride events, but trannies still exist and are employed at NASA? What budget cut is appropriate then?
3. What if trannies are gone from nasa.... but NASA still holds LGB events, no T? how much budget cut is appropriate?
4. How many cakes baked does it take to justify cutting one probe?

What does NASA astrophysics have to do with spaceflight?

>>16717179
fuck you

>>16717180
No seriously

>>16717177
Well, it's not exactly my call, but my conditions for fully restoring their budget would be the following:
1. Firing every last person who was hired to fill a diversity quota, and ending all such tabulations.
2. Permanently ending all NASA spending on non-space-exporation-related projects.
3. Firing, stripping ALL property and wealth from, and imprisoning anyone who was involved with instituting the policies and projects banned by numbers 1 and 2 above.
After all, we are basically talking about massive fraud on the part of NASA—redirection of public funds to politically driven agendas.

>>16717181
no.

ban all /pol/ posters

>>16717182
can you point to some of that fraud? is it in the room with us right now?

>Please ignore the 50 times NASA's political undertakings have already been pointed out in this thread alone.

ban all /pol/ posters

>ban all /pol/ posters
What about people who call for hanging of political leaders, as you did earlier?

25 flights btw (by the way)

>>16717191
>25 flights btw (by the way)
I still wonder if Musk's rockets aren't being sabotaged.

>>16717186
please justify your logic as anything but cruel punishment. Ok, cut all LGBT stuff budget from NASA. I actually support you on that, believe it or not. Have I ever stated otherwise? But how does that justify the cuts? oh I see, you actually only care about smashing trannies and not spaceflight.

>>16717189
what about people who call for genocide of minority groups? they're in this thread too.

>>16717182

Cut, Fire, Investigate, Prosecute, Imprison, Deport.

Then tear down the buildings and turn them into frisbee golf parks.

>>16717193
>people who call for genocide of minority groups
Wasn't me.

>>16717175
He was also crazy, but in the good way

>>16717194
what crime?
and btw I still legitimately cannot tell if you're trolling or if you actually believe that a handful of NASA pride events means the entire agency should be shuttered and people should be imprisoned. Are you that scared of trannies? Are you that religious?

>>16717197
Again, that's not me.
One advantage of /pol/ is poster ID, so you can tell who's who in a conversation.

>>16717198
shut up shitass

>>16717199
You seem astonished to learn that there are many people who agree with me, as if losing the last election including the popular vote and every swing state didn't make it clear that more than half of America is tired of the woke agenda.

>>16717194
>Prosecute
for what. answer the question.

ah yes, sfg - Shit Flinging General

>>16717200
define woke. This should be rather trivial, considering there is a whole "agenda" for it! I give you two minutes.

>>16717202
ban all /pol/ posters, it's that easy kid

>>16717203
>define woke
Everything YOU support, apparently.

>>16717204
don't be a smartass.

>>16717081
>blocks your path

God, I would so rather be discussing aerospikes or SSTOs instead of arguing with this woke drone.

>>16717207
sorry we had to cut the budget because of trannies. no aerospike money left. don't worry we taught the trannies a lesson, they've learned not to walk around in a parade one day a year with NASA merch on.

>>16717203
time's up. I didn't get an answer. shucks

>>16717133
>me on the right

>>16717209
>There was aerospike money before.
There wasn't, but there could have been if NASA hadn't been funding parades for pedophiles covered in dildos.

>>16717211
I didn't even notice that dude!

>>16717207
>aerospikes or SSTOs

>>16717210
>But I totally wasn't trying to trap you by refusing to accept your definition no matter what it was.
Gosh, if only I hadn't outwitted you by not taking the bait! (Not that outwitting you was difficult.)

>>16717212
a 2nd BINGO, I'm on a roll. I really needed that tranny = pedo square.
Again, we understand your hatred towards trannies. It's a /pol/-thing. You do you, I'll never understand that board culture. But why come here, to /sfg/? And shit up the last 200 posts? You have a one-track mind, all you want to discuss is trannies at NASA. It's boring, it's stupid, it is not fun.

>>16717216
>hatred
Oh noes! Not that!

/sfg/ is a much better place now that we're discussing the real issues of NASA trannies. it's good to see. God Bless President Trump!

>>16717214
>aerospikes or SSTOs
Offering me a topic choice? SSTOs!

>>16717215
"NASA is corrupted by woke! Kill trannies!"
>what's woke? How are we suppose to, as you claim, arrest and deport woke NASA people if we can't define it
"lol nice try TRANNY I'm not falling for your BAIT! YOU'RE THE WOKE HHAHAHAHAA"

sigh

>>16717220
>"Kill trannies!"
Who in the fuck are you quoting? The voices in your head? Nobody said anything about killing anyone, except in that one post when you yourself said someone you don't like should be hanged.

>>16717222
don't be daft, the anons itt posting about arresting and deporting the (pedophilic) trannies at NASA would like nothing better than to murder them. haven't you ever been to /pol/? have you not seen the tranny being hanged meme spammed over there? God damn you're naïve. remember who you're talking to when you interact with /pol/

So, ignoring the woketard, what about an SSTO space plane that can elevate for vertical launch on an airless world (which would tend to have a lower gravity anyway), but take off horizontally using wings to get to high altitude on a world with a significant atmosphere?
We run it on methane because that's the single fuel we would be most likely to be able to make on an alien world.

>>16717226
SSTOfags always conjuring fantastical hypotheticals where their shitass rocket actually works

>>16717226
>So, ignoring the woketard,
if you left that out of your post I would care to respond but you had to rope it into the discussion above. nice going.

I tried designing a hybrid engine that could function as a turbojet/ramjet in an oxygen environment, but seal itself to be a pure rocket engine using internal oxidizer otherwise.
As one might guess, that combination is very, very challenging!

>>16717230
I didn't really want you to feel welcome into the discussion after all the cruel names you called me: slime, excrement, and so on.

>>16717229
>conjuring fantastical hypotheticals where their shitass rocket actually works
Same as Shartship fans

ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
>ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
>ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
>ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL
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>ELON IS NOT SUICIDAL

>>16717235
because you are a corrupted, nasty person. you waltz in here and just lie and spew bullshit.
you need mental health help for your tranny phobia my dude

Of course the engine would be even better as a turbofan, but the dynamics of someone deactivating and aerodynamically sealing all that off to go to ramjet mode just proved way to unrealistic.
I mean, a ramjet isn't all that far from a rocket engine, conceptually. You basically just close the incoming end and start feeding in oxidizer.
But a ramjet isn't that far from a turbojet. So could you do all three in one?

>>16717235
fuck you, get out of /sfg/. take your tranny obsession somewhere else. you give no shits about spaceflight. you just saw a soft target to attack with /pol/ talking points. It's effective, I guess? congrats?

>>16717241
There isn't going to be any hybrid ramjet you stupid slut

Again, ignoring the woke lunatic...

Spaceplane plans are myriad. I don't know why we don't use these as rockets in general, except I guess it's precisely that they aren't SSTOs.
Personally, I would want to be able to steer any kind of reentry vehicle I found myself in.

>>16717226
are we allowed to use NASA research for this thought experiment? or is it not allowed because of trannies?

So what about retractable wings? We already do it with fighter jets, for the most part. I know they only go as far in as a delta wing, but we could probably use that as the "out" configuration, and pull them in underneath to minimize tumbling during certain launch and reentry events.

>>16717246
your attempt to have a 'legitimate' /sfg/ discussion is pathetic. why aren't you talking about "ideological campaigning" like before? it seems like the more pressing matter. we need to eliminate LGBT before we can even START talking about space planes. just as you said. you believe what you said right.

>I don't know why we don't use these as rockets in general,
wow maybe because you're a /pol/ invader who only came here to thrash trannies around?

I would, of course, offer these ideas to Elon, but I can't imagine he'd be interested in developing them, having his hands full with Starship.
And Bezos is busy reusing old rocket designs with strippers on board.

>>16717255
but Bezos is DEI? >>16717155
how can we trust him?

it really is just you and me now

Of course what I really want is a linear aerospike on an SSTO spaceplane, as long as I'm dreaming. I just can't think of an effective way to merge that with a turbojet/ramjet.
"One big intake on the front," you say? Yes, I thought of that, but now we are talking about a single, massive engine!

>>16717232
nips have a hybrid rde/rocket engine demonstrator

>>16717260
ok chatGPT

>>16716773
>timing
>Skyhook
Use a ring cuh

>>16717255
>Elon having his hands full with Starship
Lol
Lmao

>>16717261
>nips have a hybrid rde/rocket engine demonstrator
You ever see the Sabre? It was an air-breathing engine. I thought it was a neat idea, but I guess it didn't go anywhere.
I suppose the misery of all this is that rocket engines are difficult enough to make without adding all this other stuff to them.
Still, it's what I'd love to see.

>>16717263
Tethers are the way
https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2020/07/tethers-all-way.html

why is /sfg/ so obsessed with SNCA (shit nobody cares about)?

Well, it's the middle of the night here. I should get some sleep.
G'nite to everyone but the diddler!

>>16717267
because someone took the shit in this thread about 280 replies back

>>16717268
still providing my point that literally all you can think about is trannies. you can't comprehend that someone can criticize your MAGA religion without being part of the flavor-of-the-month minority

>>16717265
>You ever see the Sabre
Of course we have
We thought all of that garbage was superseded by starship

>>16717239

Four months from now:

> Elon Musk did not kill himself

>>16716958
Shotwell will kill everyone.

Not ANOTHER explosion

>>16717291
How many rockets did they explode yesterday?

>>16717006
I support taking a hammer to everything tank gentially connected to a pride flag, it needs to be rooted out
Some collateral damage is unfortunate but can't be helped, the falg needs to be shunned like the swastika

>>16717011
This but actually unironically
4chan mod team is filled with transient, ferries and other degenerates

>>16717019
Not if they stop doing it
The unis have refused, that is the difference and problem
They refuse to stop pushing the ideology

>>16717298
and by replacing them with nazis what, we can complete the site's transformation to stormfront 3.0?

>>16717301
what ideology. that LGBT people exist? that's not an ideology.
I am glad this thread is back to talking about trannies. I was worried for a second there.

>>16717026
Hard to say due to the organization being g completely i filtration with affir.ative action, which is really the bigger problem but closely related

>>16717035
>>16717036
What if this actually works and America party gets enough senators and congressmen to function as the decisionmaker

>>16717042
Starship might get canceled, depending who gets ownership

>>16717305
hi anon I work at NASA, that simply isn't true. what source told you it was? I've been on hiring panels. We don't have a magic checklist of minority traits.
You've been lied to by /pol/, lol

>>16717123
The problem is 'equity', transient are a symptom and one of the exploiters that has also got a bit of a life of its own that is negative in other ways

>>16717311
source?

>>16717182
Yes

>>16717314
imprisoning under what charge? will I be imprisoned? I do work at JSC

>>16717193
Getting rid of transient will increase efficiency, cruel punishment as you call it is just a bonus (trannies getting people fired for not entertaining their delusions had been part for the course for like the latest 4 years up to mid 2024)

>>16717318
what the hell is 'transient'

>>16717303
No, just regular people

>>16717321
and how will the site benefit from that? calls for genocide are already allowed on /pol/. how much more of a shithole can it get?

>>16717304
Woke in general which includes trannies
They can exist all they want but not a sliver of uni resources should go to entertaining their delusions

>>16717035
Yes.

>>16717310
The general political climate and so on for the last few decades e surest it even without explicit discriminatory rules (which would probably be illegal)
People not on with the program won't get hired, and these people will hire people like themselves

>>16717316
For being a faggot

>>16717326
according to who, exactly? that's not a falsifiable statement the way you phrased it.
>they are discriminating because.... because they just are, alright!?!??!


>>16717327
it's depressing that you might not be trolling.

>>16717319
Autocorrect

>>16717326
>People not on with the program won't get hired,
That's a false statement. like I said I work at NASA. I'll post my PIV if you want.
PLEASE explain to me this supposed 'program' that I adhere to when looking at candidates? Is it something I'm subconsciously doing? lmao

To post in this thread you must name 5 (five) launch vehicles

>>16717329
Lol, get ready to be dragged out of JPL with the other fags
At the mock trial before execution you will be asked why it takes 10bil and 10 years to create one shitty rover and where does this fascination of rube goldberg machines co e out of

>>16717332
Starship
F9
Saturn V
N1
that's all

>>16717333
>>16717326
>>16717318
>>16717311
>>16717305
your spelling / autocorrect is atrocious.

>>16717333
hey anon! >>16717222
look! the mask is off!

>>16717331
Yes, with ambient political and social pressure that is slowly getting washed away
But a general culture shift would need something more radical whi h i dont think these cuts will do by themselves, would have needed someone like isaacman

>>16717331
>Is it something I'm subconsciously doing? lmao
From the way you type, yes

>>16717337
What makes you think Isaacman would be based the way you want him to be?

>>16717336
Its a joke you hysterical faggot

>>16717337
ok, so who am I not recommending to hire that I would if I wasn't.... whatever you think I am? give me an example. again, you're providing unfalsifiable statements. Just vague, broad strokes of "yep there is a cultural rot, you're not hiring certain people for certain reasons. no, I can't tell you what people or what reasons :^)"

bro
also you're still spelling like you've had a stroke

>>16717339
He cares about results
I dont actually care if there are trannkes working at NASA or not but they need to stfu about it and go to work

>>16717340
is calling me a faggot a joke too? I'm confused, so is the whole last 300 posts about arresting, deporting, exposing, etc trannies a joke or is that legitimate? Is the last 300 posts about blaming trannies for the BBB a joke? I'm serious.

>>16717343
That wasnt me
I do find trannies insufferable

was calling trannies pedophiles >>16717212
a joke? I'm all confused here

>>16717345
that isn't the question. the question is are you, a /sfg/ poster, supportive of the /pol/ troll's posts over the last 300 replies saying that the REAL reason the BBB is indicative of cuts to NASA's budget in the upcoming appropriations bills is 100% due to the handful of pride events NASA contributed to over Biden's admin? and as a result we need to cut astrophysics missions to indirectly make trannies quit NASA?


wait was that a joke as well? help me out here, >>16717340

it's a good thing that calling to execute fags is now officially a joke. I now know that you all don't mean it <3

>>16717347
>>16717346
no I am being 100% serious

>>16717349
there are some circumstances where fags should be executed yes

>>16717351
were any other agency cuts specifically because of trannies? who exactly in the government is behind this? so politicians are lying about balancing the budget and they actually are scheming to get trannies out of public servant roles?
wild, you should go to WaPo or something with your revelations. don't just keep it to us /sfg/ chuds

>>16717352
is this a joke or not. please clarify any posts from now on out. otherwise I might reply thinking it is serious and get undeserved (you)s

>>16717354
its not a joke

/sfg/ has been mindbroken....

>>16717337
oh nooo anon, Rook is a tranny too, sorry about that. seems like you just can't find any Ws in this tranny world. Or, what did you mean by a radical culture shift from Isaacman? Surely not something as simple as 'kill the trannies' right?

>>16717353
its not about getting trannies specifically out of public servant roles, its to stop the ideological capture and often that requires the removal of the people as well
but if enough people are scared and/or the culture slowly changes then that might not be necessary

>were any other agency cuts specifically because of trannies?
probably all cuts to some extent had this as one of their motive, most prominently perhaps in the military which explicit mentions to trannies I think
so it wasn't just about the cuts, that is one reason
but depoliticizing the agencies was another reason, this includes people pushing tranny ideology

>>16717356
ah good, if you can can you put a trip on saying you're NOT one of the killing trannies is a joke posters? it's hard to keep track of who is who.


>>16717357
at the end of the day all I'm doing is replying to the /pol/ bots, it's not terribly complicated. If they leave I have nothing to respond to. They came here wanting to talk about NASA and trannies. I'm happy to talk to them about that subject, either respectfully or on their retarded levels.

>>16717358
he was participating when the wokies were at the height of their power just do be able to function
a bit like a bunch of people in hitlers germany probably saying "heil hitler" just not to get ostracized
there is this thing called preference falsification if you didn't know, which subsequently often leads to very quick changes when there is a critical mass of dissidence

>>16717361
I see, and because of tranny ideologies we don't deserve science probes?
Tell me, I work at NASA. What, precisely, have I been doing ineffectively or wrong because some of my coworkers are trannies?
Literally what?
because it seems to me you don't actually, at all, have any logic behind the /pol/ slop you've been programmed to parrot. But I suppose you don't need it. you just need pure faith that this ideological thing you're convinced of is real and deadly. there is no saving your failed brain. kys.

>>16717366
it's that simple eh? you're a fucking retard

>>16717366
>when the wokies were at the height of their power
it's hilarious how you have the reasoning of a 12 year old

Spaceflight

uh oh! it looks like mr retard anon and his big boy preference falsification theory is really just the talk of a degenerate /pol/ faggot. or, or, or, are the "WOKIES" still in power? oh no, we'd better kill them then

one example of preference falsification might be a scenario where a white straight male is getting interviews for a position at NASA with the JPL tranny as one of the interviewers
after questioned about wanting to kill trannies or something similar, the white straight male might falsify their actual preferences and say "no of course I don't want to exterminate every tranny, including you" to actually get the job, closely holding their actual political believes hidden

>>16717369
it is what it is, but I must have hit something to get you to be this whiny lmao

>>16717375
it is 2 anons from /pol/. at the onset of their spam they could have been instantly banned but nope freeeee speech. are you enjoying your free speech on 4chan anon? it's making this thread more enjoyable for all. thank god for free speech or we would have never had this scintillating conversation.

>>16717378
is this irony? it's so borderline. are you with or against the killing trannies /sfg/ team? this is important.

>>16717379
don't play smart you fucker. tell me what you really believe.

lmao completel meltdown

>>16717379
you're the one whining like a little petulant asshole about trannies and ideology this and that. despite how you try to hide it it is blatantly obvious you really have no clue why you are here wasting your time on /sfg/. go back.


>>16717383
you can give (you)s you know

>>16717369
>I work at NASA
clearly the budget cuts weren't deep enough

>>16717363
>at the end of the day I'm replying to bait every post

>>16717380
>/pol/ is a person with opinions I disagree with

TTD

once again the double standard is at play, one can pound their chest and promote /pol/ schizotheories but oh no if someone contests it it's a meltdown. And oh nooo it is verboten to complain about it, that makes you a tranny. pathetic

>>16717386
you're the one replying. look at the reply structure up to now.

>>16717387
is this one a joke too or no?

>>16717386
seems to me it's also ideological capture if you selectively remove all ideologies of a certain type from an organization. oh but, I guess not if they're ideologies of people who deserve Total Death eh?

>>16717384
>I am forgotten

>>16717392
the other ideologies have been expunged a while ago

>>16717398
list them

Elon will never allow trans people on Mars, it's a given. They would be a liability in such an environment anyhow.

>>16717396
>posting rockets on /sfg/
We don't kindly to that here, friend.

>>16717400
SpaceX won't be landing on Mars in its current form so it's not up to Elon

>>16717404
So this is the new cope?

>>16717404
they will

mars will never become a civilization because /pol/ drones like those itt will prevent women from ever being assigned to the colonist ships because "DEI" or some fucking bullshit.
ban em all

>/pol/ is a person reddit told me about
Unironically go there for a week and you will understand why we are laughing at you.

>>16717410
laughing at what? nothing in here is funny, kid

>>16717408
trying to ban women from coming won't be a problem, quite the opposite
women are generally much more risk adverse
banning trannies is going to happen like banning a bunch of other mental illnesses, at least for quite a while during the colony's early phases
when you can have (actual) tourists there, then you can have mentally ill people as well and they won't be an existential burden anymore
but obviously that is going to take quite a while

>>16717410
I was on /pol/ for the zimzam trial, it all went to shit after that. get off my fucking lawn and go back to your containment board

>>16717308

Has anyone modeled a Raptor F9? Because hen Starship is mercy killed, that's an obvious Plan B.

>>16717417
vacuum Raptor is part of the problem not of the solution
there is no need to kill Starship booster, it works fine as it is; it probably could and should be used as an SSTO for light(er) payloads
has anyone done a dV calc on a starship booster + falcon second stage?

>>16717421
the booster can't come back from orbit
seems a pretty inefficient way to use them as expendable SSTOs

>>16717424
>the booster can't come back from orbit
says who? powered descent, bby. your exhaust plume is your heatshield
>pretty inefficient
only if you throw them away
>expendable
no

btw I just realized Elon's mistake
he should have started by building a recoverable Falcon second stage, even if it would have had a tiny payload, to get experience for the Starship

>>16717429
that was the initial idea but they abandoned it to work directly on the starship
and I mean starship has already landed in the water a few times
v1 worked somewhat

>>16717429
alternatively
>use a starship booster to orbit a fully fueled Falcon 9 S2
>re-use it to orbit an X-37
>mate the F9 S2 to the X-37
>...profit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkfTQwjbrk8

>>16717408
Artifical wombs. Females are a liability, they are very moody and bleed out of their hole. And when they feel like they don't get enought attention they will be very socially destructive.

>check out r/mars looking for some autistic discussion about rocks or rover pictures, ideas on colonising mars
>it's just a political karma farming wasteland filled with people who think humans are evil and repeating the "we need to fix earth first" hippie boomer shit
It's ruined my day knowing people like this actually exist in massive quantities.
Like, look at this comment:
>As long as we haven’t ruled out there’s life on Mars, Mars is for the Martians. It’s not our planet to conquer.

>Robotic explorers in the name of science, yes. Human explorers - no, that’s an ego project.
Why aren't retards like this just killed? Mars belongs to whoever conquers it, just like how we tamed the Americas and created the greatest nation in the world that allowed for all these space soience missions.

>>16717442
Modern liberal ethics has conditioned many to believe that colonization and expansion is inherently evil. This idea that we're taking something that "isn't ours" by settling Mars is sentimentality disguised as ethics. There's no life there, it's a barren toxic wasteland filled with carbon dioxide. Expansion, pioneering, and conquest are core parts of human history. What they're really objecting to is the idea of a human presence in general, because they hate humanity. You can rest easy, anon, knowing that this ideology will die on Earth and the explorers and pioneers in us will inherit the stars.

It's over


Ok this is fake but imagine if it were real

>>16717452
I would punch Elon Musk VERY hard in the face.

>>16717457
I'm sad that the cage match with the Zuck didn't happen
getting beat up, or worse, submitted by a jew nerd, would have been a welcome reality check

>>16717462
I don't think reality checks do this retard any good
He headbutted Scott Bessent, who then kicked his ass, and still he didn't learn anything

>>16717263
Why is the rocket launching to the wheel from the wrong direction

>>16717470
The wheel is itself orbiting, and counter-rotating so it meets the rocket with zero relative velocity, then greatly boosts the rocket's speed. See >>16717266

Mars in the Year of the Dog!

China, I kneel...

>>16717408
>Mars will never be colonized because some people don't believe chopping off young boy's penis makes him into a girl.
Look back at your life and pinpoint the moment where you got on the path that made the above statement something you will defend above all else. No amount of dishonest rhetoric is going to make the infestation of science with identity politics into a productive event. If you actually were interested in science, instead of being willing to burn it all to the ground to defend an ideology based on your hormones, you'd be fighting tooth and nail to get all of that junk out. Instead you keep fighting to keep it in, at all costs, even if it means the complete destruction of every scientific institution. Ask yourself why you are like this and what you actually think you're going to accomplish with your demand that science kneel to whatever a bunch of hormonal driven mentally ill people tell you is best.
Reminder: von Braun didn't visit the altar of hormones to get his ideas. He didn't think the most important thing about a rocket was whether or not there were enough vaginas of various colors working on it. He worked on rockets using physics and engineering, not vibrancy and diversity. But we both know you'd rather destroy modern civilization than admit your ideology is a destructive plague that's sweeping through institution to make them crumble.

>>16717442
>>it's just a political karma farming wasteland
so just like sfg

>>16717498
>He didn't think the most important thing about a rocket was whether or not there were enough vaginas of various colors working on it.
so then why are you so obsessed with that kek
ywabaw btw

>>16717508
Because it's infested every institution in the west and is actively holding back progress. Kike.

Vivian won, I kneel

So how about a ring space station around erath like therings of jupiter, and you spin the ring so fast that ut generates artifical gravity and people can stand but upside down.

Why hasnt that been built yet? Am I retaded or a genius?