Thread 16719341 - /sci/ [Archived: 468 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:23:16 PM No.16719341
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Science, for all its dazzling breakthroughs and smug self-assurance, has left modern humanity stranded in a desert of meaninglessness. We split the atom, mapped the genome, and simulated the universe, yet we're more lost than ever, spiritually bankrupt, and existentially hollow. Religion, in contrast, speaks to something science can't quantify or dissect: the raw ache of the human soul. What's the point of knowing how the universe works if we don't know why we're here? The modern world, propped up by scientific "truths," dangles precariously over a pit of nihilism. Religion isn't some dusty relic of a superstitious past, it's the only force radical enough to meet the void head-on and transmute it into something meaningful. Science explains the world; religion dares to redeem it. Until science stops worshipping its own objectivity and kneels before the mystery of existence, it will continue to offer facts without wisdom, progress without purpose, and life without soul.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:24:47 PM No.16719344
>dusty relic of a superstitious past
it very much is tho
you can find meaning without needing religion for it
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:45:15 PM No.16719360
>>16719344
A zealous individualist fails to see how developed countries are dying because their people are drowning in a sea of meaninglessness. Your secular religion is no less a religion just because it lacks a god. But it certainly is less useful because it fails to provide purpose.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:49:38 PM No.16719363
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>>16719341 (OP)
Deep down every scientist, researcher and student knows there is no science without God.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:14:22 PM No.16719385
>>16719341 (OP)
I too struggle a lot with existential disillusionment and existential despair.

But the disillusionment with organized religion or the occult is too much to much scams, larps and spiritual tyranny, stupid dogmatism and peer pressure.
religion and even shamanism was and is obviously used as a tool of social control, peer pressure and suppress critical thinking and intellectual honesty.
Not really a valid alternative for a truth seeker imo

There is no easy answer. Science is originally a method with the clear function to invent tools that work.
The scientific models are not reality, not life itself, but only artificially models that help us build functional tools.
Scientific method doesn't really claim ownership of truth, it is a method to investigate existence in an attempt to develop models that best describe reality best, assuming fundamental natural laws have some consistency or permanence.
In it's core science as a method is just an intellectually honest and existential humble investigation of reality.

And the method of scientific inquiry has also been subject to debate. Some are more in favor of Popperian epistomology (like me) others call for less rigirous standards of investigating reality.

F.e. things like string theory or big bang are not scientific in a popperian sense. they are more dogmatism or ideology to explain some data.

What gives me a bit of relief is that functional theories of science can not be put into one big picture. Like they work in their field but contradict each other, can't be put together.
It can't explain how life came to be among many other things. the bigbang itself is a unexplainable miracle

TLDR:
Existence is still a mystery and may forever be.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:14:38 PM No.16719386
>>16719341 (OP)
The large cultural shift and widespread lack of "soul" and "purpose" in our society is due more to the destruction of our people and culture. Science has little if anything at all to do with it. Changes in society always happen from the top down and never from the bottom up, the world lost its soul by design because a nefarious power put those motions in to place, not because we "discovered" our way out of reason and common sense.

The only religion worth following is Christianity, and nothing about science disproves anything about Christianity. There's certainly alot of smug "science" worshippers out there who are atheists but none of those people are actual scientists and none of them have ever read a scientific journal in their life. Most of them probably don't even know what the scientific method is off the top of their head. They're not the reason things have changed for the worst, they're just the followers who go along with what they're supposed to. They lost their souls and their common sense because it was brainwashed out of them, not because they had any kind of scientific revelation. If someone else were in power with a different agenda then they'd go along with that as well.

We need religion (specifically Christianity) and science to guide us with good morals and a good foundation and understanding. The more we understand our world the better we will be, and as long as we remain humble within that knowledge we'll always use it for good.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:21:30 PM No.16719395
>>16719341 (OP)
>Religion, in contrast, speaks to something science can't quantify or dissect: the raw ache of the human soul.
Religion mostly speaks to the hyperactive agent detection device which is well understood at this point. You're like a stranded man that can't have food so he copes by gnawing on a leather shoe. Strong willed people just accept that there's no food and deal with being hungry. I don't need to pretend there's an objective meaning, keep your shoe.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:35:33 PM No.16719415
>>16719386
>The only religion worth following is Christianity, and nothing about science disproves anything about Christianity.
Can you describe the chemical reaction that turns water into wine or replicates bread/fish?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:44:28 PM No.16719424
>>16719415
Sure. We take the blood of a nigger like you and let it ferment then add it to water. Then we say magic sky words and Boom, wine.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:49:07 PM No.16719428
>>16719424
How compelling. Were you aware that the blood doesn't contain enough sugar and too many microbial growth inhibitors to support fermentation? Was that not in the bible?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:53:34 PM No.16719432
>>16719341 (OP)
>has left
no, we were always there, whether we knew it or not
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:57:18 PM No.16719433
>>16719428
Nope. No idea. Now return to the subreddit from whence ye came