You wanna learn math and physix? Don't listen to retards telling you to start with Serge Lang or some other textbook from 1876.
All you need is the basic undergradslop you're probably already accustomed to

>>16721053 (OP)
I don't like learning math and physics because there is not a damn thing I can do with that knowledge
so why would anyone be interested in learning about it in the first place?

>>16721074
> I don't like learning math and physics because there is not a damn thing I can do with that knowledge

You could do work in the sciences, which pretty much all require some level of understanding of math and physics.

In fact, that's a pretty good barometer for what "scientific" disciplines are bullshit, how much math and basic natural sciences like physics and chemistry do they actually require? If the answer is very little, there's a good chance it's not really much of a science at all.

what is the contents of "pre-calculus"? does it mean high school mathematics? t. non-american

>>16721081
I don't know man. If the only thing I can do with it is getting a job, then there not much I can do with in my life.

>In fact, that's a pretty good barometer for what "scientific" disciplines are bullshit, how much math and basic natural sciences like physics and chemistry do they actually require?
idk man that is a weird standard of being "scientific", like I could make up 10000 pages of fantasy calculations that are immune to testing.
I think Popper's epistemology is a more reasonable standard to determine what is scientific.

>>16721053 (OP)
I only ask for a good intro to general relativity where the author does not think setting c=1 simplifies matters.

>>16721147
Yes

>>16721053 (OP)
These are all garbage textbooks *filled* with bloat

I tried to find a copy of Radiologic Physics - War Machine by Prometheus Lionhart earlier this morning and despite being recommended so heavily in the medical imaging community, I ended up having to order a paperback for $60. Haven't ever gotten into physics beyond watching videos on how mechanisms work and stuff like that. I should read more into the subject and practice what math I can before class starts in a couple months, and hopefully that book is as good as they say it is.

>>16721397
Meant to say a PDF copy for free.

>>16721074
math and physics is used to make the bideo games you most certainly play all the time.

>>16721155
"Getting a job" isn't really the concern if you are passionate about your research. "Getting a job" is getting your foot in the door to making a life for yourself. Actually having a way of spending your time that is fulfilling is more than just "getting a job," and a lot of people get fulfillment out of research and development.

> like I could make up 10000 pages of fantasy calculations that are immune to testing.

I can guarantee you that you can't actually do this for any particular field you have in mind. The only reason you believe this is because you are ignorant about the way scientific and engineering disciplines actually function at a research level. In fact, a majority of the issues regarding testability in the soft sciences come from the fact that they are not making specific quantifiable claims with strong metrics to evaluate whether or not their claims are accurate. A lack of mathematical rigor is one of the key problems plaguing these disciplines, and it leads to papers which have no real testable conclusions to draw because they don't even know how to analytically form and test their hypothesis relative to the data they've gathered.

> Popper's epistemology.
I'm assuming you're referring to his theory of falsification. How exactly do you go about rigorously testing and falsifying scientific claims if you are ignorant of the mathematics behind actually analyzing the data you've collected and properly testing your hypotheses?

I am European. Why would i need a "Precalculus" book if i already did Precalc in 9th grade?

Can't hear you my math doesn't work anyways

>>16721509
I don't play much. Maybe 70 hours in the whole year. And I only play for immersion, that I could get from reading a book, and I only play old games, that need less math.

>>16721549
>"Getting a job" isn't really the concern if you are passionate about your research
Yes that is my point. I can't get passionate about it, because it seems to be COMPLETELY useless for anything other than getting a job.

>"Getting a job" is getting your foot in the door to making a life for yourself.
First you said it shouldn't be about getting a job.
Now you say it's about getting a job as a prerequisite for getting something else.

> a lot of people get fulfillment out of research and development.
I do too, if I feel I am doing something meaningful, but math is just like "building" a meaningless fancy looking nothing.

>>16721549

> A lack of mathematical rigor
I am all for logical and intellectual rigor, but but math is about fancy symbols to feel smart, to remove accessibility and common sense in favor of over-abstraction and fancy symbols that make mathematicians feel so smart.
"Oh bro, look at my equation, it's full of symbols that require you to study math for 3 years just to understand the most basic thing it's saying. I am sooo smart bro and you are so dumb. hehe I am elite mathematician, level 78 mathematician here hehe. "
specifically with fantasy calculations I was referring to quantum physics:
"Bro it's all a wave my math shows that"
"Ok, turn a stone into a wave"
"Brooo you are a retard low iq blabla"
None of the quantum BS is observable reality, it's immune to testing.
they say:
1.) bro we can't know the status of the particle before observation
2.) well actually we now know the nature of the particle before observation, we calculated it. NO you can't test it because if you observe it, it's no longer BEFORE observation We are so smart and special quantum bros!!

Imo it's abandoning intellectual rigor in the scientific method to "get results" "get progress", abandoning of the theory of falsification for the sake of the illusion of progress.
And math is the willing helper, the accomplice who prides themself in doing just that, subtly removing the intellectual integrity of science for the sake of inaccessible elitism and cult like tribalism.

or fractals man...
fractals..
"BRO LOOK, we attempt to make an operation that is completely removed from any observable reality, and yeah we can't solve it because everythings become an infinite repeating pattern, look we visualized it, doesn't it look fancy???"
meanwhile fractals are completely useless for anything, no practical application for anything whatsoever
how is that not an elaborate scam? Like a cult that decorates itself with thousand fancy symbols to look meaningful. I can't find anything meaningful in it