I'm like 100% sure she and people like her are just liars. But since it is a feeling is it impossible to scientifically prove that they are lying ?

>>16721338 (OP)
I don't buy it

>>16721338 (OP)
You don't want a woman with an internal monologue then that bitch will think too much and that's a massive detriment especially in capable, intelligent foids.

Men who don't have an internal monologue are a slave caste and borderline subhuman drones since they can't do internal code review and visualize abstractions.

>>16721338 (OP)
You can't even prove anyone other than yourself isn't a p-zombie.

No internal monologue means - they can't think. I don't believe this.

>>16721338 (OP)
>>16721342
>>16721344
>>16721349
internal monologue follows actual thought. it is just narrating and happens after

Isn't it weird how some women, known for attention seeking, also claim to have synesthesia, which is impossible to disprove and will grant the speaker attention?
Truly curious

>>16721368
Agreed. If you observe your monologue carefully, and cut it off half way through saying something, you will realise you already knew what you were going to "say".

>>16721338 (OP)
I'm pretty sure that inner monologue is just a type of subvocalization. Subsubvocalization. I'm sure it's possible to detect with whatever magic tools they use to do brain scans.

>>16721338 (OP)
Sergey betray

>>16721349
That's like saying you can't count if you don't use your fingers.

>>16721338 (OP)
Subvocalization is a very well studied phenomenon. The problem with people who lack inner monologues is that they're dogshit at explaining their experience, and your problem is you take this poor explanations as evidence that they're lying. The Wikipedia article on subvocalization is primarily focused on reading, but the same principle applies to cogitating as well as speaking.

People who lack an internal monologue, such as myself, recognize that we literally cannot have words in our head unless we're moving our larynx and vocal chords. Not enough to produce sound, but enough to where if this was occurring nonstop or even in silent it'd be exhausting. So it's easily simply not to do that.

My hypothesis is that people without an inner monologue have an easier time "turning their brain off" and living in the moment.

>>16721598
Fucking hell you beat me to it. I hadn't read the thread before commenting.

Does anyone have the galton quote where he talks about his research on men of science and engineering?

>>16721504
I get that when i am sleepy. These women are normally streamers/vtubers must be a miswire in the brains. I normally see shapes before going to bed in response to noise. It looks like one of those sand sinewaves plates

>>16721338 (OP)
i dont have an internal monologue lmaooo
i just do shit at will
i have to force thinking

>>16721795
you lost tranny

>>16722112
Neither a tranny nor did I lose krautshit.

>>16722116
you missed

>>16721338 (OP)
This whole discourse hinges on the fact that people aren't very good at being aware of their internal processes.
People who think they are always in mental dialogue aren't.
People who think they don't have any internal speech actually do and don't notice or bother to remember when they slip into it.

>>16722253
NPC hands wrote this post

>>16722253
retard

>>16721368
Lol

>tfw I have an internal dialogue

>>16721338 (OP)
In the extreme, I can imagine a scenario where one never is exposed to spoken language and only learns language through reading text. Such a person would likely have no auditory inner monologue. It would be a visual/symbolic inner monologue.
If you look at speed reading, the main goal is to suppress the auditory monologue and do everything visually.

If you wish to speed think, my guess would be to try to remove much of the translation to transmission oriented representations and to just work with the concepts directly as they are stored in your brain (or retrain the brain so that the concepts are stored in a way that facilitates thinking about them efficiently rather than transmitting).

>mfw I have internal monologue

In my mind I am imagining a huge quantity of magnetic base building block cubes on a grid lattice track, all stuck together as a singularity with no empty spaces for cubes to slide into, and the combined magnetic field would not allow a single, nor a group to separate, but then they are all separating apart, then the individual magnetized Plank cubes start to form larger pieces, small basic parts, which attach together with more and more pieces, more complexity, movement, structure, growing larger up the plank scale, creating new shapes, which changes the magnetic fields and their interactions.

In my mind I am now seeing those pieces form electrons, quarks, atoms are forming, now the atoms are making elements, hydrogen, a little helium, huge clouds of them forming population 3 stars, those stars are the foundries of new more complex, heavier, more electrons in the cloud shells to capture and exchange more photons and more quantity of danker denser core pieces, heavier metals, which then build population 2 stars, and then eventually population 1 like the sun.

I see in my mind the suns photons radiation energizing simple celled life on earth and then plant life, which also reshapes the elements and chemicals, turning hydrogen dioxide into oxygen.

I am visually, in my mind, seeing the first singularity in my mind, going through the stellar phases and converting oxygen that is now entering my lungs....along with this dank weed vape hit.
Stand by yall. This is actually happening, not built in my mind visually.

And then the solar system, in the galaxy/s, local groups, larger up the plank scale....expansion, digging out more of the singularity, reshaping it, moving it back into the empty holes, larger more complex parts...

Not to what...but to when, because after we are done with "the build" we connect it back up with the beginning singularity block build, in a circuit.
A physical time loop, if you will.
Time...ahugh...finds a way, into a non-flat circle/build

>>16722777
trips wasted on a schizo post. fuck you

>>16722751 >>16722757
cool for you bubs

>>16721368
>internal monologue follows actual thought. it is just narrating and happens after
Absolute retard.

>>16721338 (OP)
something about slightly dumb fat asians gets my motor absolutely running

>>16721338 (OP)
The problem is that "internal monologue" is a stupid term that autists take overly literally and assume means there should be some persistent auditory hallucination of an omnipresent narrator meticulously describing everything they do. So when they aren't literally hearing voices they assume this means they are missing some vital aspect of humanity. When in reality it's just a stupidly name for thinking to yourself.

>>16721368
it's insane that retards don't see this. they literally think dogs or human babies can't think because they don't know a language.
that's the thing that's the strangest, how they can be that oblivious to what should be obvious if they just observe themselves.

>>16722755
>If you wish to speed think
i used to do this as a kid, but then i had the idea to practice language more by thinking using it. maybe it was a terrible idea that made me slow, or maybe it was a good idea that made me able to speak somewhat better. i have no idea.

>>16721338 (OP)
No, normalfags are genuinely are like videogame npcs.
They are not real people.

>>16721338 (OP)
I don't have an inner monologue. Apparently, it's a voice talking to you? The only voice(s) in my head are when music is playing or I'm replaying someone saying something. Otherwise, I'm operating on inner images, videos, and intuitions. If I'm leaving work and realize I'm out of cheese at home, it's like this:
>Suddenly see the inside of my fridge and there's no cheese in the drawer
>Fridge image cuts to an image of the front of the nearest grocery store
>That image cuts to the cheese section in the store

That's it. There's no voice saying, "I need cheese." "I will go to [local store]." "They sell cheddar, colby jack, mozzarella, pepper jack, etc." I see it all in flashes in less than a second. I can't fathom everything being vocalized inside. It seems incredibly slow.

>>16722751
>>16722757
>mfw I have an internal duologue

>>16724038
how you felt writing that

>>16721823
You're just fucking retarded.

>>16724038
The supposed fact that you need some rationalization process to buy groceries is an embarassing thing to admit. The admission that you require any extra thought to know/remember what is in your fridge is embarassing.
I know i have half a bag of oranges in the fruit drawer. I dont need to think about it. I know if I eat an orange a day I'll run out of oranges by Saturday. No cognitive load about this exists whatsoever. It's unnecessary.

>inner monologue
>apparently it's a voice?
Self reflective, verbal-textual language thoughts generally in 1st and/or 2nd person. If you can picture a list of house cleaning chores and read it to yourself you have thoughts. Congratulations.

I'll take no further questions.

>>16721587
Right, it’s also why a competent reader can outpace the inner narration and still understand what they read.

>>16724038
>it's a voice talking to you?
It's your own voice, spoken in your head to yourself.

>>16724192
I actually never do that.
For reasoning I use logics, images, stuff that usually isn't made of words.
Sometimes I pretend in my mind to explain something to someone else though, it's a way to prepare myself in case I need to do that.

>>16724104
*dialogue

>>16724205
I hate retard memes like OP and I hate people like you who continue to push them.
It's impossible to be able to speak and not be able to think verbally.
It's impossible to be able to read and not be able to visualize written word.

You're an idiot, not because of what you claim but because you think you can convince people of this absurdity.

>>16724038
That is almost just as weird as talking to yourself in your head. Why would you see those images? Like you need to remind yourself how you get ahold of a cheese?
If I'm out of cheese, strangely I just ran out, and that's rare. Anyway, what I think is just that, there's no voice, no image. Just the thought itself. Then immediately after planning how, when to buy more.

Actually, one more thing I just realized. You don't see just images, because that can't possibly work, when you look at the images, they mean something to you. You know where those things are and you know what they are, and you know what all of it implies and you have a sense of what you need to do. So clearly, if you actually see images, they are not your core thoughts.

I am picturing myself in my head, observing every poster in this thread who has no monologue, walking around without thought, simply acting like an NPC robot inside of my mind.
Also I am rotating an apple in my mind, it is red, there is water slowly rolling down the side of the apple, I zoom into the water droplet and there is a reflection of myself looking at the water sliding down the apple inside of my mind.
I am now juggling apples in my mind and I perform a Dab occasionally.
The glowies fear star children like us.
We are the chosen ones.
We are the dawning of the age of Aquarius.

>>16724217
ChatGPT speaks and does not think.
ChatGPT reads and does not visualize.
It’s totally possible some people are on a bug consciousness level with bigger memory storage and retrieval. These are people who are programmed in a call and response, like a parrot, or a reward and punishment. There’s no thinking process required to use language. It’s pattern and repetition. Example; an Indian pilot that switches the fuel off and says they didn’t do it.

They really are NPC's aren't they?

>>16724318
Faggot.

>>16724318
>a liar who tries to cover up his career ending mistake
Sounds typically cognizent to me. Celebrated normality, even. Much the same as your juvenile attempt to win what you embarassingly perceive as a debate.

>>16721338 (OP)
shes not lying its a high iq thing

>>16723918
I guess it's not obvious if you only know one language and are stupid.

>tfw used to have internal monologue
>tfw now thoughts come naturally, no need to internally vocalize and debate them

Feels great man.

>>16721823
>we literally cannot have words in our head unless we're moving our larynx and vocal chords
This seems like one of those over-generalizations that is taken for granted. The same people who claim that "we" can't think while chewing or doing certain other activities

>>16722755
aka most congenitally deaf people

>>16724217
It's impossible to be able to speak and not be able to think verbally.
I don't think verbally when in a conversation
>It's impossible to be able to read and not be able to visualize written word.
Do you really need to visualize everything? Sounds like brainlet behavior

>>16724315
Unless you're a brainlet, internal monologue only exists as idle filler.

>>16724146
>If you can picture a list of house cleaning chores and read it to yourself you have thoughts.
Why read it tho? I just need to visualise them.

>>16724285
>If I'm out of cheese, strangely I just ran out, and that's rare. Anyway, what I think is just that, there's no voice, no image. Just the thought itself. Then immediately after planning how, when to buy more.
Just thinking "I need cheese. I will go to store to get cheese" is much more NPC behavior than visualising and anticipating the precise type and location of the cheese at the store.

>>16721823
>My hypothesis is that people without an inner monologue have an easier time "turning their brain off" and living in the moment.

arent those also the niggers who talk outloud to themselves? Thats the easiest way to spot on of you freaks.

>>16726611
Classifying things in terms of "much more NPC behavior" is ironically something akin to that itself. But what really makes you seem mentally deficient is the total lack of other remarks when you had so many directions you could have taken it. Yet "much more NPC behavior" was the only thing you could muster. You also showed you didn't understand some of the core points of the post. 0/10 reply.

>>16721349

Yes. Thinking is the exception, not the rule. Hegel talks about this. NPCs quite literally live in an indefinite eye/mouth-foot-hand-eye/mouth chain, i.e. see/say something, walk toward it, touch it (then move, change, consume, etc. it), then see/say something else and repeat, forever.

i dont have an internal monologue and my FSIQ is 113 (yes on the wais and cait) it hovers between 108-115 depending on my fw score