Thoughts on psychiatry?

>Are psychiatric drugs ever useful?
>Are the side effects so bad that you should never take psych drugs?
>If the pros of a drug objectively outweigh the cons for a particular person, then there is no problem with them taking the drug, right?

Placebos are scientifically certified.

>>16722166
I'm talking about active psychiatric meds though. Believe me, psych meds are not just placebos. I've had these meds and they do genuinely affect the mind.

>>16721888 (OP)
>Are psychiatric drugs ever useful?
Yes, for like 1 week
>Are the side effects so bad that you should never take psych drugs?
Not necessarily, but they will compromise whatever function you wanted to optimize by taking them for a while
>>If the pros of a drug objectively outweigh the cons for a particular person, then there is no problem with them taking the drug, right?
Ditto

>>16721888 (OP)
SSRI's are poison. Stay away from them.

>>16722232
>>16722238
Sources for these claims?

Why are they not useful for more than 1 week?

And in what way are SSRIs "poison"?

>>16722242
you lose track of your behaviour due to apathy, then when you come off struggle to comprehend what you did.

they disrupt the synchronisation of emotion and intellect, behavior and values.

>>16721888 (OP)
olanzapine cures hallucinations and mania

>>16722496
>photo from 2022
Did you stop taking psych meds after that photo then? And did your life improve when you stopped taking psych meds?

>>16722502
Interesting claim. I've had other antipsychotics but they didn't cause me either of those things.

>>16722617
stopped in 2024, been using nutritional supplements since current February and am ceasing them now in favor of a varied diet as they're beginning to make me unstable.

I've gotten quite a lot of self improvement done, i'm more autonomous- clean up after myself, customise my environment etc.. more creative, motivated, fit but have been struggling heavily with the social aspects- still unemployed, i think purely because of anxiety which im sure is a combo of supplements and ruminating on past events i was previously apathetic to.

overall, i now have more direction, foresight, independence in my life- i prefer it.

i did a lot of horrendous cold-hearted stuff while on and coming off those meds that I've now learnt never to repeat.

>>16722715
I see. I don't like psych meds very much (I've had a few over the last few years). But I might just take an antidepressant for a while because it might help me sort my life out. I'd rather be without all drugs, but if a drug helps for a bit, maybe it's worth it. I guess it is just a personal decision at the end of the day.

>>16721888 (OP)
actual "patient" here, yes they work, they also make you dumber, and have serious side effects in the long run, so it's complicated

>>16722496
Why are meds named in pseudo Latin?

>>16722741
Yeah true they do have side effects. Maybe this is why it's important for patients to make their own decisions about whether to take these drugs, based on accurate advice from trustworthy sources.

>>16722816
I dunno how they name them, but fluoxetine has fluorine in it, so that probably influenced the name

>>16722242
My source is the fact they did not cure a single patient :)

>>16722855
Metformin didn't cure a single patient either.

>>16722855
Lots of drugs don't cure the condition they're treating. Tablets to lower your blood pressure don't cure the high blood pressure, do they? Instead they just keep lowering your blood pressure if you keep taking the pills.

>>16723522
>Instead they just keep lowering your blood pressure if you keep taking the pills.
*assumption, extrapolating how many pills wok*
>and they make your body dependent of those pills by lowering your body's natural ability to fix the issue they have more and more as you keep taking them
tell me pharma industry didn't

>>16723540
Think about type 1 diabetes. Without insulin injections, you die, right? The insulin injections don't cure your diabetes, but they allow you to live, even though you still have diabetes.

Maybe some psych meds can be thought of in a similar way, especially since some psychiatric conditions are thought to be highly genetic in nature (e.g. schizophrenia). So the meds don't cure your schizophrenia, but they help you live with the condition.